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SPECULATION Journal of the Whills, gazing backwards, and what this might mean for future Star Wars initiatives

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Angelman, Apr 23, 2017.

  1. Angelman

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    Hi all,

    Assuming that an actual Journal of the Whills was shown in the TLJ teaser*, and taking into account that all rumors have Luke searching for the origins of the Force/Jedi, possibly to end the Jedi for the benefit of an older, truer understanding and use of the Force, I wonder if this might signal an interest on the part of LFL/Disney to explore the deep past in future Star Wars series? Could we be looking at the early signs that Old Republic films/shows might be in the works (pre-pre-Development)? Thoughts?

    *We don't really know that the book in the teaser is meant to be THE Journal of the Whills. Or at the very least, it is certainly not the JotW that George Lucas invisioned back in the 70s; that book was a future chronicling of Star Wars events, recorded by the Whills as told to them by R2D2, and was not a contemporary in-story book at the time of Luke & Co. (unless the Whills could also time-travel, and somehow write the book before the events of the Movies happened, or something... which I really hope wasn't the case). The original JotW was based on a literary devise in 50s and 60s SciFi novels, where you would have epigraphs starting each chapter with a quote from a future history book that looked back the events of the novel you were reading and made insightful comments on it. Isaac Asimov's Foundation and Frank Herbert's Dune both did this, and there were many others besides.
     
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    I would like them to go even earlier, to the times of inception of the Jedi Order.
     
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    Those books could just be books Luke checked out of the Library and never returned. Gonna be a huge bill, he's been gone awhile.
     
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    Seing those books (and that book in particular) in the TLJ trailer was like: wow! ok, there is a mythology, there are so many legends in there, there are ancient times.
    I would love to see Old Republic events, Could be interesting to explain stories of that era. There is so much to tell and those were great times to create myths and legends from both sides.

    That would be so great. Without a doubt the beginning of the orders are so interesting.
    And the technology of those eras? How it was in that period of time in this galaxy? They had sabers, or ships to travel? How they fight? Where the Force appeared? In a planet without technology?
    Really would love to see more of that. I think it has to be no that epic. Dark and philosophical times, with a simple and accurate oldfashioned cinematography, with an eye on those 50's and 60's scifi serials.
     
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    The canon comics show Luke reading the Journals of Ben Kenobi when he is learning how to be a Jedi - Considering Obi-Wans voice was also in the trailer, there could be a possible link there?
     
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    Kenobi's Journal could be on the shelf of books that we see in the trailer, but I do not think that it is the book being referred to (the one we see in a close-up during the trailer) here: Kenobi's journal/s have Aurabesh text on them, whereas the text seen on the book in the trailer has a different language form altogether in a ring around the Jedi insignia.
     
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    I think and hope you're right. I want to see what someone can do with a blank slate, not having to shoehorn their story into a very crowded timeline, using pre-existing characters.

    It definitely seems like they are really pushing the ancient history of the Jedi with Rogue One and now TLJ trailer. I love the idea of an a Pre-Republic TV series. Imagine feudal kingdoms with their own armies of Force wielding warriors. The whole series could culminate in the unification of a bunch of the armies into an Order of Jedi. I hate to compare it to Game of Thrones but...
     
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    Yeah, didn't mean the one thats shown closer up in the trailer, but just one of the books on the shelf:)
     
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    i wouldn't be surprised if you're right and this is a subtle way of introducing Old Republic-like timelines to the films. i don't think it'll be the Old Republic as shown in KotOR or the MMORPG The Old Republic, but likely some other timeline within the Star Wars universe that's remote enough to give them room to breathe creatively.
     
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    Excerpt from the Journal of the Whills (recovered from Ach-To ruins):

     
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    books in Star Wars.

    It means a long time ago.

    Can't wait to know more about those books
     
    #11 Madmartigan, Apr 25, 2017
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