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SPECULATION Jyn Erso MUCH different from Jan Ors? Poll..

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Canadianbacon, May 6, 2016.

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Is Jyn Erso Disney's version of Jan Ors?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    52.2%
  1. Canadianbacon

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    We've seen Disney twist around EU in TFA correct? Such as Solo kids..

    Question is are they doing it again with Rogue one?
    Jan Ors helped Kyle Katern steal the death star plans in a video game, and here we have similar characters in Rogue one doing just that!

    Jyn Eros sounds a lot like Jan Ors even looks

    Jan&Jyn01.jpg
    Janors02.jpg
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    Never heard of it but its certainly an interesting idea. Maybe not basing it off of, but someone in they creative team might have been a fan of the game and suggested they borrow a few ideas when they were writing it.
     
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    I think there are visual similarities, but Jan seems a bit different character wise than Jyn. Jyn seems more angry and ready to fight, whereas Jan had more of a moral reasoning to working with the Rebels.
     
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    No idea, but they do love to use the EU as a pick and choose ideas buffet.

    Also, could you please explain to me how the word 'pull' works in this context? It's obviously used in a different way to the colloquial meaning here, as a 'pull' is something a guy does on his own... Don't make me explain it further. Your threads have been raising my eyebrows until I figured out this was a different use of the word.
     
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    Who are talking to?
     
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    I think hes talking to me but im unsure... As to the pull its a voting if you think they're same or not or so?
     
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    Ah. Do you mean "Poll"?
     
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    lol yeah
     
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    Haha. Would you like me to fix that for you?
     
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    sure if ya want
     
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    Yeah, sorry, was talking to you. I am less confused now, thanks. Btw, not a he.
     
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    I could contest that :p


    loljk

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    lol
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    also like to point out that Jan and Jyn are almost wearing the same jacket, yes different colors but same kinda big pocket on it.
     
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    Also did you notice that the goggles are very similar to Rey's storm trooper ones ?
     
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    yup
     
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    The rogue-ish brunette heroine is a very general character type. I don't think the fact that one is appearing in a SW film calls for a comparison to Jan. Jan never had much character depth anyway.

    At this point, Jyn is the overused fed-up-with-the-system young adult heroine. A Katniss type. I'm definitely expecting more development though, and VERY much looking forward to R1!

    I'm also a forever a hardcore fan of the DF/JK games. This thread is making me want to dust off Outcast and give it another playthrough!
     
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    I'm tired of the katniss type
     
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    I am as well.

    It appeals to a certain demographic, but it's not realistic for characters in these situations.

    I prefer heroines like Leia and Rey. They are such powerful and thoughtful characters, rather than self-centered. From the small amount of time we knew Jan Ors, she seemed to possess these traits as well.
     
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    They don't seem really human to me...now someone like A HERMIONE type would be the best of both worlds to me.
     
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    The "Katniss Effect" has one of two explanations. The first is that Hollywood is following an erroneous trend. Hollywood bigwigs are spectacularly stupid when it comes to figuring out what people want. Remember when Deadpool came out, and Hollywood executives assumed that it meant that people were now tired of PG-13 superhero movies, that that all future superhero movies had to be R? Same thing. People react well to something that is new, Hollywood thinks that it means that people want that to become the norm. Katniss resonated with audiences, so Hollywood assumed that people would only see movies with female leads if they were in the mold of Katniss.

    The second is that Felicity Jones just happened to be cast in the role because she was best suited for it.
     
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