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SPECULATION Kanan and Ezra's Fate

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Lumpawarrump, Nov 21, 2014.

  1. PoeReyMi

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    I think none of the characters will die in the series...it's a kids show. But I think other books will be written about these characters and honestly I don't see any of them surviving past the timeframe of ANH. Yoda would know of Kanan and Ezra's existence otherwise and he'd enlist them to help Luke in ESB if they were alive, wouldn't he?
     
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    I hate to say it, but they both can't be around by the time ANH starts, and their contributions have to go pretty much uncredited. Otherwise someone would've brought them up when Luke joined the Alliance. "Oh, you're a Jedi, too? Yeah, we just had a few of them around helping."

    Perhaps in the series finale, they'll be on Alderaan? That way we'd know what happened, but the kiddies wouldn't have to see it.
     
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    I like the idea of them being on Alderaan. Perhaps they are called there by Oregana after the senate was dissolved to help Obi-wan and Leia who he believes are on the way. Bail would be planning to use the three Jedi as his rallying point. Great idea @Darby
     
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    This would make sense as to why Tarkin was so gung-ho to destroy a planet, because he knew there were Jedi there.
     
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    I don't think he has to know that the Jedi are there. I'm sure he suspects that Bail is one of the leaders of the rebellion and by showing that the Empire is willing to destroy the home worlds of the rebellion leaders they are showing the price of rebellion. Its one thing to risk yourself its another to put the lives of a billion people on the line and this tells those who want to rebel what the cost is. "Fear of this battle station will keep the local systems in line" was probably more than just one guy's opinion.
     
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    You know what's funny?

    Canonically Bail Organa isn't dead.

    We didn't even know about him in the OT, Leia never mentions him, and he's still alive in Rebels.

    In fact, being a member of the Senate only recently dissolved at the time Alderaan is destroyed, it's (technically) possible he was en route to the planet just like Obi Wan.

    Any way....regardless...we have seen the vision of the Inquisitor killing Kanan, and masters tend to die in Star Wars, so I think that's inevitable. But we also know Ezra has a lot of Dark Side in him, and therefore his fate is actually very undecided.
     
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    I had always thought Leia had taken over his senate seat.
     
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    Kanan will die Ezra will live on in his memory.
     
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    This would be an excellent way to tie everything up, especially considering their ties to Bail Organa in this series. I personally believe that Kanaan and Ezra will most likely perish by the end of the series. However I am open to the possibility of either one of them surviving, but there would have to be a good explanation as to why they don't play a major part in the OT.

    After watching season 1 we now know that Yoda is aware of their existence, yet he tells Luke that he is the last of the Jedi before he passes away in RotJ, therefore if either one is still alive at their point, there has to be something that causes Yoda to believe they are dead(or at the very least, no longer Jedi). I personally like the idea put forth by others of Ezra and Sabine having a child that can be brought into new Star Wars stories, a nice way to continue Ezra's legacy in Star Wars.

    As far as the other crew members of the Ghost, I don't see any problem with having them survive past the series and into the OT era. There have even been rumors of one or more of the cast members making an appearance in Rogue One, and since they have already stated that there will be no Jedi in that film, it obviously couldn't be Kanaan or Ezra. I think either Hera or Sabine would make sense to show up in that film, although there's no reason it couldn't involve an appearance from Zeb or Chopper either. Regardless of how they wrap things up, I'm very interested to see what happens with all the crew members of the Ghost.
     
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    This is dark, but I don't think any of the characters make it out of Rebels alive. I assume Ezra, Kanan, and Asohka kind of have to die...otherwise Luke and Leia would not be the last hopes. I think they will all go down in a blaze of glory. Their ship name, Ghost, says a lot.
     
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    I still think Alderaan or the Death Star being the final locations of our rebels are my favorite ideas.

    Even though, Rebels has shown they won't shy away from going a biy darker ... it's away to make their fates clear, while not forcing the younger audience watch the heroes die directly.

    Filoni and company have said their story could continue. However, the Storygroup are huge fans like us (likely just as nitpicky and analytical). I just can't see them overlooking key lines by Yoda and Tarkin in the OT that support the idea they don't make it out of the series alive.
     
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    It is the straight line though to connect the two serials. It coud happen.

    However, the TV serials appear much later some 40+- years after the New Hope Episode 4. Things have changed so far. The owners are different, and Disney definitely say it departs from Lucas' ideas of Episode 7. Perhaps Lucas didn't intend Rebels at all.

    While I don't know what will happen next, I suggested a bigger role for Ezra, since he already surpassed the character of the Young Anakin (good). Dark Side conversion is not an option at all, because we already have such conversion that took the screens and minds for literally decades. There is something more making Rebels than just abridge. Although it could be just a bridge that the kids will lose their daily portion of free time. Let it not be so easy!
     
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    I kind of looked at what Yoda told look with a grain of salt. There was still that slim chance that look could be persuaded to the dark side, so perhaps Yoda wanted to keep some details of other events and Jedi compartmentalized from Luke, just in case.
     
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    I think Yoda would likely have wanted Luke to know about other Jedi if there were any at that point in time, frankly it would be a nice detail to know if you had to defeat the Emperor. Also, if Ezra and Kanan are still around, it seems logical that Luke would have heard of them at some point and would likely be interested in meeting them.
     
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    as much as it pains me now that Tarkin AND Vader know about them they pretty much have to die

    ANH

    "the jedi are extinct their fire has gone out in the universe"
     
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    Or he is led to think that they have died.

    But I think you're probably right.
     
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    After tonight's show, I believe that Kanan, Ezra, and Ahsoka will either die in the show, or the finale will set up their deaths. I now believe that unless one of them goes to the dark side, none of them will be alive during ANH.
     
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    Give the season a chance there is still 14 plus episodes to look forward to from September.
     
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    I'm willing to bet that this show ends with the crew setting up base on alderaan. There's no way Disney will have a kids show where the main characters are killed on camera. I'm sure I'm Rogue one someone will mention the crew and then we will know they died on alderaan.
     
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    The problem is not to arrange their death. The problem and the challenge before the fimmakers is to give a new fresh start of Star Wars and not to go back to scenarios of 30-40 years models. Therefore the appearance of Clone Wars, and now Rebels, that frankly did not have to appear from the point of view of the Episodes 1-9. They appear because they bring particular message to the audience, to the kids, and they are needed for Star Wars to maintain its position as ever fresh ideas, not just shooting and lightsabers. As long as Star Wars is on the top. For now, Rebels enjoy may be millions- wide public, bigger than that of politicians and pope. It is influence beyond imagination, also to older guys.

    Ezra already showed powers beyond limit. Indeed himself much weaker than Dart Vader, he brought upon him the imperial walkers and that saved both himself and Kanan. Ezra is the character of the future. No where near to death. Kanan may die in the last episodes, but Ezra will continue. Not as evil, because Anakin-Vader is enough of such transition to be shown in decades. Ezra is not Anakin-2 he is antipode of Anakin-Vader. He will grow up much stronger in a parallel timeline on the galactic history, not necessarily crossing with the trilogies.

    That is the entire reason (imo) of introducing a new character like Ezra, in addition of Ashoka from Clone Wars. She could have died in the last episode, and she still lives. Disney makes thing different. Because the world today is different (on earth) and that is a mind shaping movie. We are no more 30 years ago in the Cold War and its end. We are ina different situation and the heroes who give us example from far away galaxies should be adequate for their role. Not repeating decades old roles.

    Ezra could become a great master on another planet, with or without Yoda, and even to form new separate entity in this galaxy or another one, after freeing Lothal in the outer rim. If you remember Episode 1, in the Outer rim the power of the Republic was non existent. I watched "maps of galaxy" and the empire has about 1/3 to 1/2 of the galaxy but no more. There are also still unexplored parts of the galaxy. I am curious whether the New Republic will rule the Outer rim and the other remote areas or there will be again places of unlawfulness, trade smugglers, and in the time of Episode 7 - remnants of imperial fleet. We are talking of a half trillion stars as average for a galaxy, with some being bigger.

    We have to be open for a wider picture, and have to say it, to be open that picture to find its reflection on Earth, as it did at the end of the Cold War. Star Wars was one of the films that crossed the Iron curtain years before the fall of the Eastern Block. That helped a lot to shape minds of the young then population. Today we have something similar. It is not just a space show. It is images who talk to our youngsters directly, better than any preacher. Ezra is leading the show for now. Tomorrow it may be another hero, as the son of Lea. As of today we have what we have, and that is a Escape from Lothal and the other place of Rebels stronghold. We can only guess how the things will evolve with the rebel fleet on the other side of the galaxy unknown for the empire.

    To put them all on Alderaan to die all at once, is to turn the tape 30-40 years ago. I don't think this is the reason behind the Rebels. If they wouldn't bring anything new after Clone Wars, they wouldn't have existed in first place. I don't think anyone of the filmmakers would repeat 30 years old models, even if they connect the personal timelines of the known heroes. Luke and Lea exist at the time of Rebels, we don't see them at the moment. Perhaps, the Emperor mentioned Obi Wan, attempts will be made to locate him on Tatooine. It is tricky indeed to connect all those dots. But what I see in Disney Star Wars Rebels, is a new approach and a new start. That is needed very much to Star Wars, if Star Wars as a whole will continue to shape history of filmmaking.
     
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