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Kathleen Kennedy: Lucasfilm is Taking Time to Step Back and Think About Where Star Wars is Going

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    While The Mandalorian represents the present for Star Wars, many are wondering what the future will bring for the most iconic movie franchise of all time. Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy was recently interviewed by The Wrap, discussing the technology of The Mandalorian, 'Baby Yoda', and the future of the franchise. The bits about Mando and Baby Yoda are basically the same old stuff, so for the sake of redundancy I am going to skip praise for the show's technology and how big of a star Baby Yoda is and focus this piece on her comments about the future of Star Wars.



    Before we get into Kennedy's quotes about the future, the legendary producer did confirm another piece of our report when we broke the news Lucasfilm was making a Kenobi Disney Plus series. Kennedy confirmed the series will not be ongoing, and more of a limited mini-series.

    Regarding the future of the franchise. These quotes are interesting in that they are not interesting at all. By that I mean it is apparent Lucasfilm really is not sure what Star Wars is (in terms of feature films) beyond the Skywalker Saga (or things connected to it). We know Taika Waititi is currently co-writing a feature film with 1917 co-writer Krysty Wilson-Cairns, but beyond that the only thing known about upcoming Star Wars films is that there are untitled (undetermined) ones slotted for release in December of 2023, 2025, and 2027. Let's take a look at what Kennedy had to say when asked where things stood as far as where the franchise is going now that we have said farewell to the Skywalkers.

    The interviewer points out that when The Rise of Skywalker came out, Kennedy said Lucasfilm's creative team would now take time to get together and think about what is next for the franchise, and where it was going. That was over eight months ago, and it appears they are still trying to figure that out. That is a bit unsettling as we see other major franchises pummeling fans with full slates of content coming down the pike in the next 10 years.



    I am as big a Kathleen Kennedy admirer and supporter as anyone, and her resume as a producer is one of, if not the most impressive in film history. But I do begin to wonder if the bigger importance was to finish George's episodic saga, and worry about the future of films later. Well, later has arrived. Kathleen Kennedy, to me, is the greatest film producer of all time, and has done an incredible job taking the hits from critics and fans while steering Lucasfilm through the post-George Lucas era, with a lot of success on the other end of some bumpy productions. But even a mega-supporter like me can't help but wonder if a new voice is needed. Eight months later and you're still thinking about thinking about where the franchise is going next?



    Some will point out that we once went 16 years between Star Wars films. Yes, that's true. But it's not 1999 anymore, and I once again urge people to look at the wheels churning with other major franchises and studios. Star Wars needs to get it together and figure out what it is without the Skywalker family, or things tied to it. Thankfully we have The Mandalorian as a security blanket until more clarity presents itself on what Star Wars is going to be over the next 10 to 15 years.



    I think the archaic method of secrecy and keeping everything inside the walls might have run its course as we live in an age of instant information. It might be time for Lucasfilm to take a page from Marvel and other studios and present a larger level of transparency in regards to the future of content. Until then I eagerly await to hear more about:

    Untitled Star Wars Film (2023)

    Untitled Star Wars Film (2025)

    Untitled Star Wars Film (2027)



    With all that said, I remain hopeful, excited, and optimistic for the future of Star Wars films because Kathleen Kennedy and the franchise have earned it. I patiently await our next adventures and our escape to that galaxy far, far away we all love so much.



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    This is...interesting news. I'm not happy about it, but I'm not surprised either. I wish Star Wars was in a different situation, but it also isn't surprising to see how we got here. I'm not one for outing Kennedy, since she's done her job well, and her producing resume is iconic, but...yeah. Maybe we don't just need a new voice, but we need a new vision.
     
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    What I take away from this is that LFL, KK, & al. cares deeply about Star Wars. It is a much more loaded, and in a cultural sense much more important, franchise than the MCU, Matrix, Indiana Jones, whatnot, and figuring out what to do with it is therefore, necessarily, also much more difficult. They would rather take their time to ensure they can make a good product, than to flood the marked with sub-par stuff; something the MCU can endure in stride, but would weaken Star Wars overall. Quality before quantity, in other words.

    Of course, we're spoilt and want more SW now! But I, for one, is greatly encouraged by LFL taking Star Wars this serious and resist the urge to just spew out a dozen films a decade (which people feared they would back in 2012 when Dinsey bought the IP). They could EASILY have created a gazillion half-@r$ed SW films and shows over the course of a decade, and made a ton of money out of it, but that would only water down Star Wars. No, KK & LFL love SW and I have great hope for the franchise future because of this!
     
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    Kennedy needs to slow down! She's rushing Star Wars and ruining it! Get rid of her!

    *Kennedy slows down Star Wars*

    Star Wars should be moving forward! We need a new vision! Get rid of her!


    I cannot for the life of me imagine why Lucas cleaned his hands of this property....
     
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    Unfortunately, KK won't be removed with billion-dollar films... it's all about money, not creativity, hopefully, Star Wars doesn't transform into more trash.
     
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    I think you took the wrong lesson from that.
    Star Wars isn't in a trash state. Never really has been.

    She won't be removed because she's very, very good at her job and people who want her removed because they don't like her for whatever reason are proving their illogical reasons by wanting her removed no matter what she does even if it is what they wanted.

    Another example, even after capitulating to the "I hate TLJ" crowd with TROS, they still want her gone. Why is that?
     
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    Star Wars isn't in a trashed state, but it can transform, or end up that way if KK keeps to her selfish priorities, ROS barely crossed the billion-dollar mark and critics were shocked... now with a little breathing room KK can reflect on her creative failures.

    JJ Abrams brought Star Trek out of obscurity so KK thought he would be the one to bring back Star Wars from the Prequel aftermath, KK is clever, she discovered Abrams and introduced him to Spielberg, so JJ owed her one, Spielberg convinced JJ to direct Star Wars at the end. Spielberg worked with KK for years so he had to help her out. JJ should have directed the entire trilogy, but KK left creative latitude to the directors only wanting a female lead protagonist ( if she understood Star Wars lore, the hero's journey, was a fan of the material maybe she could have created a coherent trilogy). She is the boss, of course... haha I think Lord Snow is right Kylo should have been the lead instead of Rey. Anywho, by the time KK figures it all out fans worldwide will be thirsty for another Star Wars film
     
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    Oh please. What was selfish about it?
    Literally name one selfish thing about her.
     
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    I did, she wanted a female hero, nothing more, nothing less, that's one selfish thing... oh please
     
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    Oh for blasts sake.
    That isn't selfish.
    At all.
     
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    I'm...going to regret responding to this, aren't I...? Yeah...I probably will...
    At the risk of stepping into something I really don't want to be a part of, I sort of agree and disagree with your point.
    Is it selfish to want a female hero - or rather, a hero that reflects how you look so that future generations that look like you will have something you felt like lacked growing up? In a way, but that's not a bad thing. I know for a fact that if I was in charge of Lucasfilm, Finn would be in the spotlight with Rey, and there'd be FAR more POC in far more prominent roles than there currently are. Does that make my desire selfish? Probably. But that also might mean that I see a deficit that others don't, and I'm going out of my way to correct it.
    Kathleen wanted women more prominent in Star Wars, yes, but why is that a bad thing?
    Maybe I'm missing context here, but if we're going to critique Kathleen, that's NOT the thing we should be critiquing her over. Name a separate selfish and critique-worthy thing, please.
     
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    For all of the negativity with KK, we are overlooking the fact she allowed the crew of The Mandalorian to develop and use some pretty groundbreaking technology i.e. "The Volume" or the large HD screen filming process. Much like Lucas broke ground on the original with ILM and moving cameras instead of moving models.....

    I have a strange "gut feeling" , could be wrong though, that the first movie of the next trilogy is going to be wildly successful, groundbreaking, and just continue the vision of Lucas...
     
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    It's not a bad thing at all. (and apologies if my original post was a bit aggressive. Wasn't coming at you but rather the impossible position Kennedy is in where people will cal for her head no matter what)
    It's only selfish from a male perspective, it's empowering and welcoming to girls worldwide who had been relegated to second tier characters who never really got to use the force or were mostly just fetish fodder from the female perspective.
     
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    I agree. And I will go one step further: Star Wars needs MULTIPLE visions told simultaneously across multiple fronts. We need shows/films to not just satisfy the OT fans, the clone war era lovers, and the ST people, but throw in anything else creative and fun. The fandom is segmented and fractured; this fact is apparent and will not change in the foreseeable future. Using Disney+ as a way to create a VARIETY of movie-quality content is smart.
    However...
    My fear is that D+ is strictly going to adhere to the “OT” look and feel, which is not solving any problems, in my opinion. I was a little worried when KK said in that interview (paraphrase): “we wanted Mandalorian to look not just like th OT, but the first movie of the OT.” I disagree entirely. The game engine technology should be used to create worlds so elaborate and awesome it will make that Coruscant speeder scene look easy-peasy.

    I’m curious when that Mando trailer drops: the real test of whether they can use that game engine tech well (at least in my humble opinion,) is what kinds of awesome worlds will be in it? Will it FEEL different?
     
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    Seems like the ‘news’ part of this ‘news story’ is that there isn’t enough ‘news’ to write ‘news stories’ about. Is this really the concern of a fan, or the concern of someone who capitalizes on the fans having new things to talk about?

    Bob Iger: “I just think that we might’ve put a little bit too much in the marketplace too fast.” I agree with Bob. They’re pumping the brakes now. Good.
     
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    While Rey is incredibly strong, she is still not quite the type of a female characters that annoys... some people. That's because the modern "Strong Female Character" is also "independent" and "doesn't need any man". All the while Rey cleary needed Ben Solo - for connection and also to defeat Snoke/Palpatine in both of their encounters. Rey is more like the 90s female protagonist, like Buffy, Xena, Sam Carter and Kira Nerys. Besides, George Lucas also wanted a female protagonist as well, so there is that.

    I would also like to mention, that producing (live-action) Star Wars is expensive. Very expensive. So it can't possibly be made to satisfy some narrow group of fans. So it has to be kept simple and accessible to general audiences. And that is something KK and her associates managed to accomplish. You can't go too creative with a $200+ million movie. So, if they (for now) don't know where the franchise should go - it's fine. They can't rely on the Skywalkers and nostalgia to bring people in anymore, so let them spend as much time as need to develop the next film.
    Also Solo's case proves, that KK is willing to reshoot an entire movie to make is good as possible, even if it means wasting another $100+ millions. That deserves at least a little bit of appreciation.
     
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    Solo was a movie made to cater to a narrow group of fans. Even without expensive reshoots, it's still the least profitable Star War ever made. But you could argue Kasdan earned it.

    The Mandalorian would have been about the same as Solo if it were a movie.
     
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    The decision to make Solo was reasonble from a business point of view - Han is a popular character that everybody knows and loves. But the amount of... miscalculations made after that is... fascinating.

    Ultimately, there is no sure-fire approach to do things. If you go with business, you might be getting TFA, TROS,R1 and the Resistance. If you go with artistic vision, you might end up with the PT and TLJ.
     
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    Best producer ever? It's correctly spelled Kevin Fiege.
     
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