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Kelly Marie Tran Speaks Out About Her Reasons for Leaving Instagram

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by SWNN Probe, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. SWNN Probe

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    For the first time since Kelly Marie Tran deleted her Instagram account over the summer due to online harassment, the actress speaks out about her decision and offers some perspective and encouragement along the way. Her words are very poignant in today's atmosphere of social media, where actors are no longer simply characters on a screen, but real people who interact with fans on a daily basis. While social media is amazing in how it offers fans the opportunity to communicate with their favorite actors, it has also opened the doors for the dregs of society to spew their hatred and bigotry as well. Kelly reminds us to embrace what makes us different and to find worth in ourselves and those around us.



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    (Note: Above is just an excerpt from the article. Click here to check out the full article and read all of Kelly's words on the subject.)



    I would like to think that most of us can get behind Kelly's line of thinking, and I hope that the Star Wars fandom will be a creative refuge for humanity moving forward - a place where all are welcome to embrace their unique voice and contribute to the galaxy far far away like only they can. I encourage you to voice your support for Kelly and others in similar situations. Remember that in the end, these are just movies, but the people that bring them to life on screen are real people with real struggles and feelings.



    Kelly, we are glad you are a part of this universe, and we can't wait to see what the future has in store for you!





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    Great piece by Kelly MT! <3

    As a male and a white person, I'm sure I've said and done things in my life that made women and non-whites uncomfortable or insecure, by accident of course but that can sometimes be more hurtful and harder to handle than deliberately nasty remarks from arshatts and bigots. I think Kelly did an excellent job in TLJ, and I really like Rose and what she stands for, and furthermore, I think her article is great and important. I hope she's found some stability and confidence again now.

    <3 KMT <3
     
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    Well, good thing that Kelly has found her life's purpose - that's a very hard thing to do. In a somewhat similar situation I decided to go and help build the country my parents were from, rather than stick around in the c...phole I was born in.
     
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    Reading this made me truly moved. I am so happy for Loan "Kelly Marie" Tran and that she found courage to publish a piece like this. Also, a note - if you dislike a fictional character but find online abuse unacceptable, please don't write "I dislike Rose but Kelly didn't deserve the abuse" or something along these lines. Statements like these validate dislike for a character as a reason for abusing someone online, which as I hope all of us know is plain stupid.
     
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    I had no problem with Rose. Just the fact that there are much worse characters in hollywood films in general but this one got that much criticism was always a bit odd to me. To differentiate a bland expression of a personal opinion(I hate xy) doesn't make it better or less vicious in my book.
    I really like Loan since I never heard it before and hope she sticks to it.
     
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    I wasn't the biggest fan of the character Rose in TLJ, but I never understood the amount of hate Kelly Marie received for her character. Ahmed Best and Jake Loyd received the same treatment when they shouldn't have. At the end of the day these people are just trying to bring to life a character written down on a piece of paper and in all 3 cases they did a good job of doing that. You can dislike a character without completely losing your marbles on the actor who portrayed that character and the fact that people can separate the two is still mind boggling. I wish Kelly Marie all the best and I'm glad she finally spoke out on this issue. I look forward to seeing what she does with the character in the last movie and hopefully the vocal minority that bullied her off social media will be silenced by her performance.
     
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    An exceptional article by an intelligent, sincere, brave woman. Her words are hugely relatable and mean a lot to many of us. I'm glad she spoke up and exposed so many sad truths with so much understanding and hope.

    "My real name is Loan. And I'm just getting started."

    Well said, Loan. Bring it on.
     
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    Hating the character Rose isn't the same as harassing the person Kelly Marie Tran, therefore a great performance won't silence those, who harrass her because of her race, gender, and appearance. After having read the article, I don't think she was referring to those, who think Rose's character was badly written in TLJ and that her role didn't gave her enough opportunities to shine.
     
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    Mentioning negative feelings about the character of Rose is truly unhelpful and unimportant at this point. People need to realise that behind the character there is a real person who is feeling targeted and who has been targeted. Who feels guilty and responsible and for what?! Pissing off some cranky SW fan?! So ridiculous.

    This is about someone’s self-esteem, mental health and career. No one cares about how much you or he or she disliked the character of Rose, a character in something as inconsequential and banal as a SW movie. There has been a victim here. People need to cop on.
     
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    This isn't necessarily true though. I'm not glad she was a part of the movie. She's not a good actor and her character was a waste.

    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 22, 2018, Original Post Date: Aug 22, 2018 ---
    The harassment and attacks she had to deal with were inexcusable, but she and the author of pieces like (http://collider.com/kelly-marie-tran-letter-star-wars-harassment/)this are making it hard to stay sympathetic. People trashed her character because, while she was supposed to be innocent and likeable, she sucked. She was awkward, unnecessary, poorly portrayed, and played too large a role in a pointless part of the movie. The Author of this article tries to play up the characters important, but we all know that not only was she not an important character but her subplot was a complete and total waste of time. So now, because some ass holes treated her poorly (and they legitimately did do that) we have to go on the opposite direction and praise her performance? I'm sorry, I'm not going to do that, especially when she and some of her defenders are saying stuff that simply wasn't true.

    You were harassed because of your race? Tell that to Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen. She was harassed before the movie came out? The author of that story actually says that and we all know that she didn't start getting harassed and threatened until after the movie's release.I truly feel bad for her because this has obviously messed with her head, but she's going for the low-hanging fruit/borderline lying and frankly I hope her character just goes away.
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    But people can say they liked the character? Create fanart and pretend to like a character?People can say whatever they want here. It has no bearing on her mental health. Having a civil somewhat private conversation on a message board is not equivalent to going directly after the actress. I can dislike the character, talk about disliking the character, and yet still be sympathetic towards her and condemn any and all bullying she was the target of.
     
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    What untruths are you referring to exactly? I'm not understanding what part of this you consider to be fabricated, or if you are just talking about your opinion versus others.

    Again, I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say or if there is some other misunderstanding here. No one is trying to say that she has faced harassment from Star Wars fans her whole life. From what I gathered, that was referring to other discrimination she has experienced in the past (by non-SW fans, you are correct there) but had seemingly conquered and put it behind her. Then this new wave of harassment (primarily from the fans) made her question whether she should have so easily brushed aside the hate, or if there was actually a level of truth to it.
     
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    Of course people can say whatever they want but IMO not to criticise her character or her performance at this specific point in time is in better taste. I particularly do not appreciate people saying negative things about this woman’s work right now, I find it pointless and I am sure people with my same sensitivity would appreciate the same from me. I find it in poor taste to continue feeding this negative narrative about someone who has had (perhaps is still having) a difficult time.
     
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    For my part I dislike Rose and not the actress. I have nothing against Kelly Marie Tran, she's actually a very sympathetic and cute woman. But this doesn't change the fact that I criticize her character alot and I won't change my mind on that. Rose is a bad character. Btw it isn't even Kelly's fault. Rian wrote her character that way. The only thing you could confront Kelly with is the acting. That's it.

    This is how criticism works though. We have to mention it for the writer(s) to learn. An actor/actress should also never feel guilty for doing her/his job. She played the character how Rian wanted it and she did a solid job. Her character is still not that great though. A different actress wouldn't have changed that.
     
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    I agree with the difference between the two groups, however those who hate the character Rose and were pretty vocal about it probably helped embolden those who attacked Kelly Marie Tran because of who she is. People like to attack when they think they have numbers on their side so when people are talking negatively about her character, it gives the truly nasty people more ammunition to use. That's why I hope she really does a great job in the next film because if her character does a complete 180 and ends up becoming a strong and memorable character it would cause the group of people who attacked her based on who she is to be even smaller.
     
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    This isn't how it works. The hater will find new reasons to hate on the character and on Kelly herself. If she's ends up becoming a stronger and better character, then people will call her Mary Sue. Or even worse they will blame her for making Rose a better character, just because she was harassed by the haters.
     
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    That is exactly what is being said in this piece: http://collider.com/kelly-marie-tran-letter-star-wars-harassment/

    "But since everything is terrible, Tran was attacked before fans even got to know her character. Then when The Last Jedi came out, and writer/director Rian Johnson paired Tran’s character Rose up with Finn (John Boyega) on what some deemed an unnecessary detour (it wasn’t—the entire Canto Bight sequence serves to thematically deepen both Finn’s and Rose’s characters and strengthen their resolve), some fans got completely out of hand on social media. They attacked Tran directly, because they didn’t like the movie, because they didn’t like Rose, because they didn’t like women or people of color in their beloved Star Wars. It was ridiculous, disgusting, and uncalled for, and it drove Tran—an absolutely delightful person—to leave social media altogether."

    Nobody went after her before the movie came out. That is patently false.

    It's also completely untrue that people attacked her because she was a woman in a minority. People attacked her, and I agree many of them went completely overboard, because her performance sucked and people didn't like the character.
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    I agree with everything that you said except this. Her performance was not good and a better actor couldn't easily change how she was perceived in people's eyes.

    mod edit.
     
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    No, not exactly. At first read I get the assumption that some people started yapping at / about her because they didn't like the casting. Then it got worse when they didn't like the character.

    I thought we were only talking about the article posted by our site, that cited Kelly's direct quotes about facing racial discrimination most of her life and then having to deal with a group of unruly fans who didn't like the character she played. This whole argument is starting to get a bit convoluted.

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    ...maybe not.

    While you or no one you know may not have gone this far, unfortunately there are people who do. It's disgusting and shameful, but it does happen. Let's try to avoid this habit of speaking for everyone. Not everyone makes it about race or sex and is only offering a fair criticism, and not everyone hates her character either.

    And as for the rest of your post which has been deleted, we'll be having none of that. There is no need to make it personal.

    That goes for everyone else here too, as the tempers are all starting to flare a bit too high. Cooler heads, people, cooler heads.
    Thank you.

    edit: this thread is getting a time out.
     
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    Alright boys and girls, let's try to be civil this time, eh?
     
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    That's it! This thread is closed again!
     
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