Knights of Ren

Did anyone notice the dark structure in the background when KOR popped up in Rey's vision? It's only for a split second when the lightning lights up the background. I saw it in the theater and I got super curious. I'm thinking it's some kind of throne to Snoke or something.

 

i assumed it was the Jedi temple at first. now i'm not so sure.

 

Yeah I don't think it was the jedi temple bc I assume that part of her vision is a look into the future. I dont think Ben had the crossguard saber when he killed all of Luke's students.

 

no, i still think it's the past, but not sure the locale. i don't think it's the temple massacre. might actually be Jakku.

 

Could be an attack on Jakku. It would have to be if it wasn't at the Jedi Temple bc it would have to relate to Rey somehow. Maybe that's when Kylo killed Rey's real parents...

 

ooo ~ hadn't thought of that. i definitely still believe he was the one to sell her to unkar. he might have killed her parents, but not been able to do her in.

 

It would make sense that Ben sold her to Unkar. It's possible that Rey saw Ben as somewhat as a brother figure in her life. And Ben may have felt the same the way, hence the fact that he supposedly saved her in the vision. That's why she was screaming "come back!" Now that he's Kylo Ren, she doesn't even recognize him as Ben.

 

makes the "come back" sorta dual-edged, doesn't it?

 

The Knights of Ren are Mandalorians. Just watched the Rebels episode preview for next week on the main SWNN page and Sabine says she is from Clan Ren of House Vizla. House Vizla as you know is the house Darth Maul took over by defeating their leader in single combat. So it's looking like Maul disappeared and rejoined his Mandalorian clan. He is going to meet Ezra sometime in the remaining season 2 and probably begin seducing him to the dark side. I think Maul is currently an apprentice of Snoke and will train Ezra and dub him a Knight of Clan Ren, maybe even the first. Here's to darkside force trained Mandalorians.

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Nvm she is Clan Wren, not Ren. No affiliation. Official Star Wars Twitter confirmed

 

I think the Knights of Ren might've been created by Snoke as a way of persuading Vader to join him. Both Ren & Padme = Lotus, so he might've told Vader that Sidious was responsible for Padme's death and that's why Vader wanted to destroy the Emperor in ESB.

Vader, as the master of the Knights, would be in charge of a bunch of loyal, dark side fanatics with the purpose of bringing order to the galaxy through fealty and compassion for his dead wife. As Vader was killed by Luke, Snoke altered his plan towards Vader's grandson, Ben Solo.

 

I explianed this somewhere else on the threads:
I explain the etymology of Ren and how it revolves around symbolism pertaining immortality. The above post is nice in this respect: Vader joined the darkside because he thought he could gain powers which would help him prevent people from dying (Padmé) I also explained why there are 7, because again the number is symbolical for eternal life/immortality. I also suggested how the two tied in with Snoke possibly being Plagueis and his particular interest in Ben Solo and Rey, just lke Palpatine was interested in Anakin.

 

Theory:

Kylo = kilo = thousand or thousandth
Ren = perhaps Some ancient title bestowed on leaders of a long-lived dark side order, the "First" dark side "Order."

Kylo Ren = The Thousandth Ren. The one from some ancient dark side prophecy. Lolz, maybe?

Anakin was the "fulfillment" of a prophecy the Jedi's favored. Perhaps Ben is the fulfillment of a prophecy from the Dark Side ancients. Perhaps even the "true" meaning or translation of the prophecy the Jedi received. Thus, he believes he will finish what Vader started by completely fulfilling the prophecy.

#LetMeDream

 

Are you saying that Ben might have been the ANTI-Chisen One ?

 

I do believe that they're still lively alive. It would be a great waste for abandoning really interesting materials for the sequel trilogy or even money-grabbing spin-off. Almost everybody love the Knight of Ren although they're there standing in the rain, do nothing. But that's the greatest thing about them. They're surrounded by the air of mystery. They will come back in Episode VIII but a little we will know about them. Something doesn't always need a clarification. Mysterious character always be founded attractive. For example, how bad ass Kylo Ren is before he took his mask off, when we saw his real face, we realize he is just a confused guy, full with hatred and fear, not the fearless and ruthless warrior we see in Kylo Ren with his mask.

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I saw in The Force Awakens leaked script. That scene described as 'The Night at the Temple' or something similar. I'm quite sure it is a temple but whose? Jedi or Sith, that's the question.

 

This theory is on the unlikely side but what if the Knights of Ren are all of Luke's former students? What we see of them is in a vision, we don't know when or where is takes place. In the vision they are surrounded by bodies, but visions aren't meant to be clear. I'm reminded of what Kylo Ren says to Han solo, that Ben was "Dead" and that Kylo "killed" him. Similar to how Obi-wan described Anakin to Luke. I'm wondering if the vision Rey has of the KOR is meant to represent not just them killing Luke's students but there former selves as well. Might explain Luke's exile a lot better if he didn't have just one student fall but seven.

 

It's been stated by Adam Driver and perhaps also JJ Abrams that the Knights of Ren existed before Kylo joined. That fact doesn't make your theory impossible or even unlikely, though. I gotta say, the more I mull this idea over the more I like it. If the KOR works like many other Dark side factions, Kylo would have to take his place as master of the order through brutal means. That would leave a lot of vacancies in the ranks that would inevitably be filled by fellow students of Luke. Students that Kylo turned to the Dark Side after he was turned by Snoke. I like it.

 

In this I am nearly 100% secure:

Its Knights of Renegade.

renegade - dictionary:

1. One who rejects a religion, cause, allegiance, or group for another; a deserter.
2. An outlaw; a rebel.
adj.
Of, relating to, or resembling a renegade; traitorous.
intr.v. ren·e·gad·ed
To become a deserter or an outlaw.
3. A person who deserts his or her cause or faith for another; apostate; traitor


You have it , the basics, now think.

I am by this sure they deserted from the New Jedi Order in favour of Snoke .