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Krennic death

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Klai Kenobi, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. Klai Kenobi

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    I'm a little surprised nobody(as far as I know) has really mentioned the obvious fate of Krennic: being destroyed by Darth Vader after his failures. This could be a somewhat dramatic scene, too, where Vader is popping his cherry with killing his own officer for the first time. Please let us know what you guys think and how you'd want this to play out. Thanks
     
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    Will he meet his fate at Vader's hands though or will Galen be the one to end it, before he himself falls?
     
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    I thunk Vader will kill him & Tarkin will take his place.
     
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    Hmmm, it's tough to say now that you mention that. I still picture Vader force chocking Krennic down being that is has been such an ongoing theme in the past and in a way reminds us of why Vader is our favorite villain being that nobody is safe from him. lol
     
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    At least in the old days (when Vader was just a thug and not Space Jesus) Tarkin was the only one who could keep him in check.



    This meeting in Star Wars ^ ^ ^ ^ has new meaning though- I could see them all getting an update once Krennic has been killed and the plans being stolen is the impetus for the Emperor moving the time table forward and dissolving the Senate.

    I REALLY hope some of these guys are implied to be in that demonstration when they are watching the test in Rogue One or they get convincing look-alikes or use CGI to recreate them standing there. At the very least Admiral Motti (at 1:04)

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    What a surprise ! This is what Vader do. Killing children, unarmed people, a washed old jedi, his own crew and his master taking him in traitor.

    The worst of the worst. A total psycho.
     
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    Man.. No doubt.. After ROTS it's been tough seeing any redeeming in Anakin. I would have been able to forgive him for everything if he'd just call the storm troopers on the younglings and leave the council room rather than ignite his lightsaber.. I think that would have been just as impactful, like.. Yeah, he effed up, but at least he still carries some kind of integrity/humanity..


    I think if they explained in canon that the dark side is much more of a spell then a choice then it could excuse him quite a bit from his murderous actions and chaos.
     
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    If anyone has read James Luceno's Tarkin, you know Tarkin was very much under the discretion of the Emperor and at his disposal while also getting the approval of sector governance leading to more reliability in the Empire. Tarkin saw to it that the Rebels were personally squashed as he put it in A New Hope "with one swift stroke". Tarkin is a man of responsibility and power that evenly balance each other. Krennic is a man, much like Count Denetrius Vidian (A New Dawn), focused on making sure things follow through to the Emperor's demands, but potentially has his own personal reasons for what he does on the side as well to prove a point. This is from I assume whatever his personal ties to helping Galen Erso by using him because he owes Krennic his life after being saved during the Separatist attacks during The Clone Wars. This could potentially lead to his ultimate demise. This causes a shift in the balance of responsibilities appointed to a man of such Imperial stature and we will definitely talk about what it expected of Imperial officers versus what several of them have used for personal gains via the new canon and other source materials hopefully in an upcoming podcast.
     
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    I'd say that vader has put so much trust into krennic that he outs krennic to vader on that same platform in the trailers and, expecting vader/krennic to kill him, vader ends up killing krennic instead and lets a shocked Galen go as his one, single pass
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    One person's "nobody" is another man's "everybody," I guess. :) I've felt like pretty much everyone has agreed that Krennic will be killed by Vader (most likely via Force choke), and that's stopped me from mentioning it here more than I otherwise might have.

    Anyway, thinking of the end of the movie, here's my take. Something tells me Krennic will spend most of the film mouthing off to Vader, realize in his final moments how powerful Vader really is, lamely try to excuse his failures and/or beg for mercy, and then...the choke will happen (accompanied by Vader describing to Krennic all his failures and perhaps making some statement about dealing with the Rebels himself). Krennic's absence in future films will be explained. Vader will remind everyone why he's become such an icon.
     
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    So correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the insignia and rank on Krennic's uniform indicate he's a Grand moff? Someone brought up the novel "Tarkin". For those who haven't read the book, Tarkin was appointed the first ever "Grand Moff" rank by the emporer and given direct control of the outter rim. That novel takes place prior to the events of Rogue One. That seems like a contradiction between Tarkin and Rogue One but I could have easily misread the book or i'm reading his rank insignia wrong.

    That was just a thought about Krennic and Tarkin. As for Krennic's most certain death I see it happening one of two ways.

    1. Krennic is killed by Galen in a last ditch effort to help Jyn escape Krennic. Galen stays behind to give Jyn enough time to escape Vader and gets killed by Vader instead.

    2. Krennic fails to stop the rebels from stealing the Death Star plans and Vadar kills Krennic for his failure (In classic Vadar style).


    There's more I could write that kinda fleshes out plot ideas and ties them together but I don't want to write that much right now lol. (lightsaber)
     
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    Love it! I guess I'm saying nobody as in many of the discussions on podcasts, youtube, etc.. I'm thinking the same as you and love the idea of Krennic being cocky as if he thinks he's in control. 'The Power!!' he says to Vader in the trailer.. haha we've heard that before in ANH and Vader fallowed with the insignificance of the power of technology next to the power of the force and I think that's what we will have between them here.
     
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    Yeah, it's obvious the Emperor has always tried to keep a leash on Vader so to speak. He wants Vader to be the self-conscious, frustrated, sad, emo kid the Jedi kept him as, so he does not realize his full potential thus keeping Palpatine safe from a typical Sith betrayal. Palpatine is the abusive father. haha
     
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    Grand Moff is a political title used by those in Palpatine's political circle and during tense situations. Leia called him Governor Tarkin in ANH when we see them together first if you recall. Outside of his political title of Grand Moff, his military rank would be labeled only as Moff during normal operations on a day to day basis normally. The title of Governor came about once Palpatine accepted his idea on sector governance where multiple governors control different sectors of the galaxy each assigned a governor. This is why we see Governor Pryce in Star Wars Rebels where she controls a sector including the planet Lothal where we first meet the Rebels crew.
     
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    Yeah weren't the grand moffs pretty much given rule over certain planets ?
     
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    some might have had a wolrd or maybe a bunch of planets!
     
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    This is why Governor Pryce was mainly on Lothal. Tarkin was constantly on the move so I'm not exactly sure which of the territories he was in control of. I may have to do some further research on that. I know Palpatine sometimes took sectors and relieved commands of each so they would not stay in one spot for too long. There was a lady in charge of the Ryloth system in Lords of the Sith, but I can't remember her name. Back to research....
     
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    I point you to the vid from above AGAIN. "The Regional Governors now have direct control over their territories."
    At the least this is an entire planet if not an entire system.

    Moffs would oversee many systems, Grand Moffs were governors of "oversectors". The Grand Moffs confer with the Emperor

    Don't know if its still considered canon but in the past the entire galaxy was divided into 20 oversectors.
     
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    I really would hate that if they did that it. I don't think they will cuz it would contradict what the Dark Side is canonically from the movies and TCW and Rebels. and of course it would make the Villains incredibly uninteresting which they wont do. Just my opinion. They are canonizing the Grey side of the force though, thanks to the Bendu and Ahsoka. But I do think you're right Vader will force choke or chop down Krennic cuz he be mad pissed in a New Hope.
     
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    I don't get why everyone is thinking Vader would be pissed at or punishing Krennic? If anything it's Krennic that would be threatening Lord Vader for his incompetence in allowing the Rebels to steal the plans.

    Even in the trailer it shows Krennic yelling at Vader. Like Tarkin, I'm sure Krennic is Vader's superior.

    It will probably be the rebels or Galen Erso killing Krennic in the hopes that the Empire would be delayed in bringing the Death Star fully online. I could even see a scene early on where Krennic yells at Vader and treats him like a dog and then later beg him for help when the rebels are closing in and Vader leaving him to face his destiny in passive aggressive revenge.

    Vader wasn't in charge of anything until Empire Strikes Back. Many important Imperials died on the Death Star and (now) probably in Rogue One. Before Empire Vader is more like 'chief enforcer' in dealing with the Rebel threat. It's Tarkin that informs the other commanders whats going on. Not Vader. It's Tarkin's reputation that is on the line, and he doesn't like Vader's scheme of putting a homing beacon on the Falcon and letting it go. Also remember Vader only had 12 minutes of screen time in the 2 hour long Star Wars ;)
     
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