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Kylo Ren is trying to protect the balance between Light and Dark

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Sida, Dec 11, 2015.

  1. Sida

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    I think Kylo Ren, the Sith who idolize Darth Vader, is actually trying to protect the balance between the Light and the Dark side of the Force. In the trailer, Kylo Ren said to Vader’s helmet, “I will finish what you had started.” Apart from killing rebels, the only thing Darth Vader did was bring balance to the Force. Currently, there are the Resistance fighting the First Order. But the Resistance is not the only faction descended from the Alliance, there is also the New Republic, according to the Star Wars Wikipedia. The New Republic is currently not at war with the First Order, but the Resistance continues to fight the First Order, hoping to liberate the entire galaxy. If the First Order is destroyed, the Dark Side would be lost, therefore breaking the balance of the force. Kylo Ren, is just trying to protect the balance of the Force by stopping the Resistance. The word “Knights” in Knights of Ren suggest that Ren and his band of non-Force users may be fighting for a cause that, at least in their eyes, is good.
     
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    First welcome to the cantina, secondly Kylo will only be trying to bring balance if the galaxy bows to him.
     
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    nice thread and welcome. Cool theory, I could agree with this. Esepcially because I feel the Knights of Ren are trying to this as well.
     
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    this again.

    "Balance" in the force, according to the jedi doctrine... means no dark side, dark side in any amounts means it is unbalanced.

    Jedi view the dark side like a cancer in the force.

    And there is no evidence to go against this idea.
     
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    But balance according to The Father is a balance between the two sides of the force. Of course the Jedi would believe that the dark side needs to be wiped out and the Sith would think the same of the light side of the Force. In reality, the only true balance is somewhere in the middle.
     
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    this is an interesting aspect that I heard in rumors a few years ago.

    It is possible that he thinks what he is doing is the right thing.

    He believes it so much....
     
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    This is how George Lucas explains it. But he is no longer in control so who knows. But this is an accurate description of how Lucas envisioned balance.
     
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    And what makes his opinion special? Because he is some vaguely magical dude who is narcissitic enough to think that he and his two children are the be-all-end-all important figures in the universe living in their dumb hick shack in the middle of nowhere (a fancy dumb hick shack, but a dumb hick shack all the same)

    As far as I am concerned Father and his famiyl are just a bunch of inbred force using hillbillies with delusions of grandeur.

    also the sith seem to think that the dark side is the true nature ofthe force, and that hte lightside is a delusion.
     
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    Interesting take on the canon of Star Wars. The whole reason for their story is to show that Yoda was right, the prophecy was misunderstood by the Jedi.

    You are also missing one very important piece of the puzzle that would actually benefit the OP who missed it as well: Kylo Ren is not a Sith. He might also think that the Jedi should all die but it's not because he's a follower of the Sith beliefs.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 11, 2015, Original Post Date: Dec 11, 2015 ---
    I think this is an excellent view of Star Wars as a whole. Whether someone is on the dark side or the light doesn't mean they're necessarily bad or good. It is really just a way to accomplish what they believe is the right thing. Anakin in ROTS believes that he is doing the right thing in destroying what he sees as the corrupt Jedi order and bringing peace to the galaxy through the empire.
     
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    Balance to the force is a good idea actually
     
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    no, no its not.. .people doing evil crap, is never good... no matter how little there is...

    and equal amounts of bad stuff as good stuff.. .even worse.
     
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    Who's the decider of what's good and evil in the Star Wars Galaxy? You're viewing too much of this through your own worldview.
     
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    No...
     
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    If you kill people, and be a major jerk to everyone, and are selfish... you are evil, stop it with the star trek psuedo-itellectual mumbo jumbo that trek diarrhea out their mouths to sound smart.

    Picard: but are the blubobouieorbhidians of blurlpl blurlple 7 ebils, duurrrr they kill people and eat their corpses in front of their children and want to rule galaxy, burt who am be the I to saytehty them ebils.
     
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    So Jedi's running around as galactic police who don't answer to anyone in the PT is alright? The rebels destroying the Death Star with who knows how many civilians on it is not an act of terrorism but rather stuff good guys do?

    You are seriously seeing this from one side only. Of course it's pretty easy to see that Palpatine is evil but characters like Kylo Ren and groups like the First Order, who we're talking about in the first place, are not so easily categorized.
     
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    I think this is actually an accurate description of your own post...
     
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    Now to add serious confusion to my opinion.



    Yes, I did just bad mouth trek, then proceed to use trek to prove my point.

    Also the jedi did answer to people, both the Jedi council and the senate/chancillor... the Jedi went to negotiate at the orders of the chancillor in TPM, Obi-Wan did not want to exceed his orders (which was the ordersof the chancillor) in AOTC, they became generals because the flipping senate/chancillor told them too, and even accepted a council member because of the demands of the chancillor.

    Are you blind?
     
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    You're missing the point completely, I'm not saying the Jedi are bad just that they aren't all good. Mace Windu obviously goes against the Jedi Code when he tries to kill Palpatine and this is the tipping point for Anakin in becoming Vader.
     
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    no he doesnt, Palpatine is a horrible evil genocidal monster who was revealed to be a memeber ofwhat is their universes equivelent of a satanic death cult...

    Mace Windu is so evil that he almost prevented genocide and the next half century of atrocities in the galaxy *Rolls eyes*
     
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    Its funny this thread reminds me of the debate that raged among star wars fandom during the lean years when George Lucas was adamant there would never be an Episode VII. Lucas had said that there was no more story and that evil had been vanquished and would never return. I always thought that was pretty dumb, there will always be conflict and people doing evil things. Just because the sith are gone does not mean that all evil will be vanquished or whatever. THe Sith were once dark jedi whats to stop a future dark force user from restarting the order in the future much like Luke restarted the Jedi order? Just like when the Nazis were defeated war and conflict did not end. Of course he also said that he never planned on an Episode VII which we now know is complete and utter bantha poodoo. Even back in the 70s and 80s he was talking about at least another trilogy after the OT. Ohh George I find your inconsistencies most disturbing.
     
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