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SPECULATION Kylo Ren Searching For Guidance

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by NinjaRen, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. NinjaRen

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    *** THIS THREAD CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR EPISODE IX ***


    After Luke Skywalker had "failed" his apprentice Ben Solo and tried to kill him in his sleep...

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    ... Ben lost a master figure. So he went looking for a new one and found Snoke. But again, Ben - now known as Kylo Ren - lost a master because he killed him.

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    In Episode IX Kylo Ren has NO MASTER and is on his own. He's leading the First Order as the Supreme Leader.

    For a long time I thought Ren would be a great Supreme Leader who would actually change the galaxy, but quite recently my mind changed.

    What if Kylo Ren doesn't want to be a Supreme Leader? This would explain why he's wearing a mask in IX. He has no confidence. He's searching for belonging. He's searching for his purpose in this story. He's searching for answers. But he can't do it alone. He needs guidance.


    So, what to do? Kylo Ren would obviously try to contact his grandfather, Darth Vader. He travels to Vader's castle...

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    ... but nothing. He doesn't find what he's looking for. So, he keeps on searching and finds the "Oracle" on a far distant planet.

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    Kylo either seeks out or is summoned by a new character that is being referred to by my source as "the Oracle".

    • Whether this is a code name used during production or the real name of the character is still unclear.
    • In addition to the concept art that my source had access to (a recreation of which is pictured below. Moderator's Note:I've seen the original and can say that the recreation is faithful to it), he/she also saw the sculpt of the giant "baby" head that "the Oracle" sits on top of and described it as "essentially identical to the art - just unpainted" with the size appearing to be "8 to 10 feet wide."
      • Speculation disclaimer: From the description my source provided, it sounds to me as if the Oracle will be a puppet or practical effect of some kind. Perhaps in the same vein as Mother Proxima from Solo.
    • My source could not confirm this for sure but is under the assumption that the swamp environment that the Oracle is found in is on the forested planet seen in previously leaked set photos.
    • He/she is also under the impression that the spider-like creature is somehow parasitic/leaching off of the the unconscious/slumbering the baby giant elf looking thing below.
    >> Leak by StarWarsLeaks <<

    Maybe this being can help the lost boy find his path to the light or even to the dark side. But what do you think? Would this be an intriguing story to tell?


    *OP CREATED BY @RockyRoadHux and @NinjaRen*
     
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    Well I don't think he can be a leader because he's too unstable. Has no patience, reckless, just like a few people we know. His uncle and Grandfather. So seeking out guidance may bring an unwanted entity onto the scene such as the Oracle.
     
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    Depends on what you mean by leader. He already is a leader, people follow him, and he has recognized authority. Now his instability certainly might mean he is not an effective leader. The world is full of horribly disturbed people who wield power.
     
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    True. But I mean I don't think he's interested in being Supreme Leader and couldn't handle that.
     
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    this. I've wondered since TFA if the reason that Kylo is fascinated in Rey is because he sees himself in her (not in the rude way lmao). searching for belonging.. trying to find out what her role should be. they both have confidence externally.. but inside.. not so much.

    he might have taken Snokes throne, but i seriously doubt that's what he wanted or planned for. I don't think he knows.
     
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    Kylo Ren puts his mask back together again, that ridiculous mask, he is lost, hiding behind his mask. He needs guidance, indeed... poor Kylo Ren... RIP Han Solo...
     
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    You Are ALL Correct. I Need Guidance. BUT, I Know My Position In The Future & Now I AM No Longer "Controlled" By The Dark Side/Nor The Light - But A Perfect BALANCE Of Both. No Longer Will Any Of You EVER See ("Record" "Hear" "See"/Etc) A "Loss Of Control" From Me Or Anything Else That Has Tarnished My Name/Image. I AM THE ONLY TRUE GREY EXISTING & More Powerful Than Any Person In Many Eons. I Will Provide Examples In The Very Near Future/Watch The Weather & Nature Throughout The World. There Is Only One Path For The "Starwars Community" - Whether Dark Or Light & That Is BALANCE. You See... Many "Light" Jedi Feed On The Dark As They Kill & Maim - Whether They Know It Or Not, Thus Landi g Somewhere In Between Dark And Light, Yet Calling Themselves Light Because They Do It For Light Reasons. Many Dark Force Users Often Seek Light For Various Reasons As Well. Survival Of The TRUE FORCE Users Absolutely Relys On Both Sides Commiting To The BALANCE BETWEEN BOTH SIDES OF THE TRUE FORCE. I CAN & WILL TEACH THAT - AN NEW ORDER CAPABLE OF ANYTHING/EVERYTHING WILL BE BORNE.
    Respectfully,
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    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 10, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 10, 2019 ---
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    You Are ALL Correct. I Need Guidance & My TEAM Around Me. BUT, I Know My Position In The Future & Now I AM No Longer "Controlled" By The Dark Side/Nor The Light - But A Perfect BALANCE Of Both. No Longer Will Any Of You EVER See ("Record" "Hear" "See"/Etc) A "Loss Of Control" From Me Or Anything Else That Has Tarnished My Name/Image. I AM THE ONLY TRUE GREY EXISTING & More Powerful Than Any Person Now Or In Many Eons Past. I Will Provide Examples In The Very Near Future/Watch The Weather & Nature Throughout The World. There Is Only One Path For The "REAL Starwars Community" - Whether Dark Or Light & That Is BALANCE. You See... Many "Light" Jedi Feed On The Dark As They Kill & Maim - Whether They Know It Or Not, Thus Landing Somewhere In Between Dark And Light, Yet Calling Themselves Light Because They Do It For "Light Reasons". Many Dark Force Users Often Seek Light For Various Reasons As Well. Survival Of The TRUE FORCE Users Absolutely Relies On Both Sides Commiting To The BALANCE BETWEEN BOTH SIDES OF THE TRUE FORCE. I CAN & WILL TEACH THAT - AN NEW ORDER CAPABLE OF ANYTHING/EVERYTHING WILL THEN BE BORNE.
    Respectfully,
    SLS - KR/BS/SLOKOR


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    What if this Oracle being has something to do with "Ren". We still don't know what Ren stands for. Maybe the Oracle is actually called Ren and the guidance of all the Knights Of Ren.
     
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    Something like the Bendu in Rebels? Knowing Star Wars, it's probably just one of those weird names.
     
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