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Kylo Ren's Piloting Ability?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by WhalePlaneStudios, Mar 10, 2016.

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    If some non - official person will twit such things that Pablo is twitting lately , everyone will tell he probably don't have a clue whats going on......
     
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    I think Pablo doesn't want to reveal too much naturally, as the possibility of seeing Kylo piloting in the next films is very possible, so, I don't think that "he has skills" and "is capable" can be necessarily interpreted as being underwhelming pilot, but we shall see. My question was is he a good pilot. Pablo answered in the positive after all...We shall see.

    (BTW I just discovered there is another thread already that is about Kylo as a pilot, I don't know if you know... I posted that there too...)
     
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    i like the way you think!
    i only play devil's advocate to keep my own biases in check, you know that ~ hahaha

    though, if he does pilot, it'll be interesting to see whether he does so with or without the mask.
    Driver says he can't see squat out of it, but i'm guessing that's not supposed to be case with the character ~ hahaha.
    i'd give good money to see a gag reel from TFA as much as he says he tripped over things.
     
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    You are right on many points...I just thought that he might say something, although you are right, his answer is again ambiguous as always...
    The Twitter pilgrimage to his account is a bit funny I think so too...I actually think he might not know all the answers himself on some important questions...
     
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    I think Pablo doesn't know so much things about new trilogy scenario as people believe he knows.

    This is not fundamental Plagueis/Snoke debate which could spoil many things and hurt filmmaker if something revealed.

    What he can spoil by saying of course he is a good pilot?

    I can tell you that if Kylo will even sit in any cockpit in episode VIII and IX surely hew will not be shown as an idiot , he is main character, at worse he will be like Obi-wan, having some contempt to flying but will do, but more probabaly a capable pilot.

    But Pablo doesn't know even if Kylo will fly anything in film.

    BTW What's the purpose of this twitter pilgrimage at him anymore?

     
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    well it's entertaining, for one.
    what else do we have to do while we're waiting for December 2017? hahaha
     
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    I think you might be right as to if Pablo actually know as much as people think he does. I have been wondering about that same thing as well...I'm suspecting that as much as he is well-informed about some things he certainly doesn't know crucial stuff about the big reveals...

    What's with the love lace song, lol!
     
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    Well isn't he the head of The StoryGroup ?
     
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    He is, but as to the biggest reveals and plot twists they might be telling really very few people (similar to in ESB almost nobody but Hamil, Lucas and one or two others knew about Vader being Luke's father)...
    I think about technical things he should know though...or it is assumed he does...
    I suspect there might be some things that only the director, producer and some of the main actors (not all!) know about...
     
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    yeah ~ may only know plot points and less about characterization.
    he may be aware that Ren pilots something, but has no idea whether it will be played in any way that suggests the level of his capabilities or if the level of his capabilities has any implications for the story.
     
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    I would have assumed that him being the head would mean that he has he final say in what directors and all can put in their movies, tv shows, etc. to create more of a unity through various forms of media .
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    True that he knows what will / won't be in something ...
     
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    My understanding is that he is responsible that things are canonically consistent, but I highly doubt he has final say as to what happens...or that he makes up the stories and how they develop...
     
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    They'd have to at least keep him in the loop so nothing happens by accident ...
     
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    actors make stuff up on set all the time. if, at the last minute, they decide it's a good idea if Ren is stupidly amazing in the cockpit, again, that doesn't have to impact plot points, it's just a "moment" that gets ratified.

    it's like Han saying "i know" before he goes into carbon (which was ad-libbed).
    someone might've tweeted (let's pretend): does Han confess his love for Leia in TESB?
    the script says he should have in so many words, but Hidalgo would be vague about it:
    "they have an exchange; you'll have to wait and see".
    that tells us a conversation happens, but not the characterization of the actual moment.
     
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    Pablo is technical expert so to speak, ultimate one for sure.That is his main field.. They surely asked him about the dimensions and internal structure of for instance crashed Star destroyers or Dreadnaughts there on Jakku, as well as questions about the other ships, about Planets, about the droids, weapons etc, as well as older characters..

    But I think he is "projecting" his expertise (or in fact we are projecting, expecting him to be that ?) on a field that is still in fluctuation, a story plot about Snoke, Knights of Ren,about Rey, Kylo Ren flying ablities etc.. Somehow he finds apropriate to comment everything this.

    From the twits that are asking critical questions ( about Snoke, Ren, Rey) Pablo's contempt to say anything percievable (but he , confusingly, twitts alot about it neverheless) one could maybe think he is an oracle that is hiding something.

    But from his equal contempt and confusing tweets about matters that are not so critical for the film , for instance this Kylo flying abilities, it seems plausible that he is not on his ground there.
     
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    I agree with most of what you point out, but I don't think he is being contemptuous. He seems to be a guy with a good healthy dose of sense of humour and wit. He responds because he has been asked and he does it with humour rather than contempt is my take on that...But I'm also of the opinion that he most probably doesn't have a say plot wise or even knowledge of what will happen beyond what he has been told so far or he has seen in the movie as a better informed than the regular spectator...This is my understanding at least...I might be wrong...
     
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    Someone twitted him if he can't say anthing, why is he saying anything?

    Probably best twitt ever out there.
     
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    #Kylo'sRealDadWasBobaFettConfirmed
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    I'm guessing the "tweet" typo was unintentional...but it works all the same. :p
     
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    I reckon I have mentioned this before in another thread.

    ANH: She helped Chewie to pilot the MF while Han and Luke were shooting down the TIE fighters when escaping the Death Star.
    ESB: She was helping Han and Chewie in the asteroid field while they were trying to fix the hyperdrive. She was also helping Chewie to pilot when she sensed Luke hanging on that weather vane.
    ROTJ: In the novelization (maybe part of the Legends by now) there were three ships: the MF,Luke's X-wing and a Y-wing. She might have had arrived on that one to Tatooine.

    Plus the new canon:

    Princess Leia comics: Though Evaan Verlaine was her pilot, she used her piloting skills through the comic series.
    Shattered Empire comics: She piloted one of the old ships at Naboo to defend the planet along with Poe's mom (Shara Bey) and the Queen of Naboo from the Operation Cinder.

    So I daresay she's a fairly good pilot herself.
     
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