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Kylo's Blue Lightsaber

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by TheTruTru, Dec 28, 2017.

  1. TheTruTru

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    Was anyone able to see the handle of Kylo's blue lightsaber in the flashbacks of him & Luke in TLJ? Is it Anakin's lightsaber, or a different one? In TFA Kylo says something to Rey to the effect of "That lightsaber. It belongs to me". At the time I took that to mean that as someone who is the offspring of Anakin & admires Vader, he wants ownership of it. But maybe it was his lightsaber when he was training with Luke. Just curious if anyone was able to get a good look at the handle in TLJ
     
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    Probably the same red one that He is using, the crossguard, with some modifications.
     
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    I think I did see a still of it somewhere on the interwebs...it looked very similar to the red cross guard saber, but without the cross guards and the handle was silver not black. It looks like he added the cross guard and painted everything emo black after he bled the crystal.
     
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    i assume the blue saber he had during the flashback was Anakin's saber, the one that called to Rey in TFA.

    it's interesting though: if it isn't the same saber, then maybe that saber's kyber crystal was the one bled for his red saber? if that's not the case, then were did he get the crystal for his red saber?
     
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    It just got me thinking. In the flashbacks of Luke hovering over Ben, Ben has a blue lightsaber. In the flashbacks of Kylo & the KOR (presumably after they massacred Luke's students), Kylo has his red saber. So did he bring the hut down on Luke, bleed his blue lightsaber, and change into his Kylo getup before massacring the students? Is the TFA flashback with him and the KOR showing a different event than the massacre at the academy? Just seems weird to wake up to your uncle hovering over you with his lightsaber, bring down the hut on him, then pause to change clothes and lightsaber before going on to kill Luke's students
     
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    Two different events.

    The hilt is the same as his crossguard saber. Just not black, and sans crossguard.
     
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    I'm absolutely awful at identifying lightsaber hilts- absolutely no eye for detail for that sort of thing.

    But it'd be cool if it was true. It would make the "That lightsaber- it belongs to me" comment to Rey in TFA be seen from a different angle.
     
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    No, its not Luke/Anakin saber. Someone already posted a picture of the shot in another thread, but I dont recall where.
    The blue saber seen in the flashback its an early design of Kylo's red saber that he is using, without the cross guard.

    PS. I found the shot on google.
    [​IMG]
     
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    So I guess the question then becomes: what event was being depicted in the TFA flashback? I always assumed it was of Kylo & the KOR slaughtering the students and destroying the academy
     
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    ooo nice find! it does look different. he must have bled the crystal from that saber to create his red one.
     
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    Nice
    I took this screenshot as well :

    BenLS.jpg
     
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    Much better.

    I found this one too but I dont know if is official.
    [​IMG]
     
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    You don’t know what that event was, and neither does J.J. or Rian.

    Like TLJ or hate it, it’s pretty clear there was a lot thrown into TFA, and especially that saber sequence, with no plan.
     
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    I like it, it may sound weird but it feels like an "OT design"
    If there was a jedi on cloud city, he'd be wielding that
     
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    JJ can solve that scene with a Flash Forward. If 9 haves a time skip then that can b an attack on Rey's academy.
     
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    It's quite similar to the red one he uses. It does not have the cross blades but very much the same handle with some elements of Anakin's sabre worked into it.
     
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    I would assume that when trying to bleed his crystal, it resisted him and cracked. This caused it to discharge out of the sides of the hilt. He then modified it so that those discharges would be focused out of the cross guard. The lightsaber also emits a ray shield which is what gives the blade it's shape and length. This also rebounds the "kyber laser' back into a receptor ring and recycles that power back through the kyber. When a lightsaber makes contact with another light saber they are simply bouncing the ray shields off of each other. However, since it is not a particle shield when the light saber makes contact with solid objects the field is broken in that area and allows the blade to cut. I think he added the cross guard for this reason alone. He could not contain the energy from the cracked crystal to one direction due to refraction, so he built two additional emitters to instead focus them. He also had to add some additional power supply wiring to feed those emitters, which is why we see the red wire running up the outside of the hilt. I would assume there was no room in the original design to allow for it to be inside of the hilt.
     
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    It could have cracked or been damaged by pulling the hut down on Luke. for me the more interesting thing is that Kylo's crystal is broken and that Luke on Ach-to wears a shard of red kyber crystal on his neck. some how the crystal broke, because the blue blade did not have Kylo's signature vents or fizzling/ember blade. so it broke sometime and he had to fix it.
     
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