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Last Movie You Watched

Discussion in 'Film' started by Bluemilk, May 14, 2017.

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    Watched free solo man even though you know how the movie ends it’s still a ride
     
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    Those people are insane, I love it!
     
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    I've been watching these movies for about 30 years and I still have no idea what's going on half the time. I'm not sure they did either, but it has a cool/weird mood and some likable characters. I have the Blu Ray but I prefer watching the Monstervision episode I have saved (even though it is in SD) because Joe Bob Briggs makes everything better.
     
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    I have to check this one.

    It is also related to JJ Abrams, no? At least he mentioned this movie.during the shooting of TFA, I guess.
     
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    I didn't think he was involved as he would have been a kid when it came out but apparently he was involved with a 4K remastering or something for some reason.
     
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    In the Heights with my parents!

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    I love John M Chu's work for the most part. Crazy Rich Asians and Step Up 2: The Streets are some of my favorite films of all time. This movie on a sheer quality level easily tops those. The sets, songs, and scenes were sublime, and the plot melded perfectly with the songs to create a true musical movie. It's no wonder that he'll be directing the movie version of Wicked (which I will hate myself for watching, but will do so anyways).

    The movie does a great job at adding dimension to flatter roles from the Broadway play, from what I've read, and also making it relatable. I really need to give credit to Chu's directing chops for that though. The casting and framing made the plights of the characters feel so real and intimate. You feel as if you were part of the community, even if you aren't. It didn't help that since my mom is a New Yorker born and bred, and I've spend many a summer in New York, multiple parts of this were relatable. But back to John - Chu is great at opening a window into a community and really showing what it means to be a part of that. He did so in Crazy Rich Asians, he did so (sort of) in Step Up 2 and 3, and he does so here to even greater effect. Chu also really lets emotions set in certain scenes. You see awkward conversations, heartfelt moments, and tears of joy, sorrow, and peace. It also felt like Chu was right at home directing big budget choreographed scenes. I'm not sure how he sees it, but to me it felt like he was able to dust off that Step Up directing in him, and have fun with that.

    Lin-Manuel's role in the movie was a nice cameo that really honored the creator of the musical in a fun way, as did the role Christopher Jackson (aka George Washington) had. The rest of the cast was excellent, ranging from delightfully campy (especially Stephanie Beatriz and her compadres) to beautifully grounded (Nina and her father's arc).

    The songs in this movie were good, but not my favorite. I still think I prefer Hamilton's music more. There's more variety there, and I enjoy that. However, In the Heights wasn't trying to go for variety in the same way, so it's not fair to judge it that way. Amusingly, some fans of both history and theater that I know actually like In the Heights better than Hamilton (the historical inaccuracies in the more popular musical grate on them).

    As always, not everything was perfect in this movie. One major section of the movie had some very awkward transitions to me. The tone felt scattered and it didn't tie itself together well. That being said, I'm not sure there would be a good fix to it. And even in that scattered nature, the temperature of the emotions melded well. It went from good-hot, to good-cool, to bad-cool quickly to bad-hot, back to good-hot (in an awkward transition) to bad-hot, to mixed-hot, to good-cool, to bad-cool. If that didn't make sense, here are the scenes below.
    The dinner party, the awkward fight, the dance, the blackout, the gathering at Abuela's, and then the ambulance.
    It felt rushed in retrospect, but I think I'd rather have rushed here and explore the emotions after than struggle to get here and wrap up the emotions too quickly.

    Overall, In the Heights is probably the best new movie I've seen this year; and while I still like Hamilton's music and musical experience better, I think In the Heights is a far better movie experience. I really hope I can see these actors again too. They were great! (And I need Vanessa's ab workout routine.) 8.5-9/10.


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    Stephanie Beatriz was a hoot. Her face during her kick of the "Chile-Domini-Cu-Rican" line gets me every time.
    I should have recognized Nina's dad as Bail Organa! I knew he looked familiar, but I couldn't place him and I didn't want to ruin the story by looking. Also, because of his role as Amy Santiago's father in Brooklyn Nine-Nine - in which Lin-Manuel plays Santiago's brother aka his son - all I can think about is how to connect the two properties...which doesn't help since one of the characters' last names is Morales, which makes me want to make said character a cousin of Miles Morales from the Insomniac Spider-Man game series...
     
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    Saw Logan last night, which had escaped me for a couple of years.
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    A marvelous, powerful movie, and one that reaches TLJ levels of emotional impact. Probably my favorite supers movie to date, and one with a story and message that actually has something important to say. Great, great stuff!

    PS: And Dafne Keen is a tour de force in this movie! Heavens, she's good! Who thought a little girl could steal Hugh Jackman's light, and in a Wolverine movie nonetheless! We shall watch your career with great interest, ma'am! :)
     
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    movies I watching this week

    Cloverfield Lane
    Barb and Star Go to Vista del Mar
    the Camp Crystal Lake Memories documentary for DVD
     
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    its stephanie beatriz duh
     
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    Watched Infinite with Mark Wahlberg. The reviews were really bad, so I expected it to be awful, but in the end, I actually quite enjoyed it. Interesting premise, a bit sloppy plot, but if you can shut off your brain, it's an entertaining movie. Felt a bit like an illegitimate love child of Assassin's Creed and Fast & Furious :D
     
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    It's okay this time since it resulted in an enjoyable popcorn flick for you but in the future I feel like we shouldn't let those two breed.
     
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    This was on the Rifftrax channel and one of the few movies they show I'd actually consider watching without the jokes. I wouldn't call it a good movie or anything but it's weird and somewhat entertaining in it's very strange low-budget way. It's a 1980 movie (though it looks/feels like it was filmed a decade earlier) about a burned out alcoholic middle aged Chicago barber who, possibly through aliens or I don't know, gets these telekinetic powers and ends up killing some people then getting chased around by the police.
     
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    At long last, I have watched Rurouni Kenshin: The Final!

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    I've talked about Rurouni Kenshin a lot before, but almost every time I do so is a good time.

    The Final covers the final arc in Rurouni Kenshin's original manga run, so about halfway through Volume 18 to the end of the series at volume 28. That is...a lot of material to cover for one movie, even if the flashbacks (the final parts of Volume 19 through the beginning part of Volume 21) are shortened to about a two minute clip show that works as a teaser and overview for the next movie, The Beginning.

    But The Final does a good job of telling the story of Enishi and Kenshin very well. The music is on point, the set-pieces are true to the manga for the most part, and the story is well done.

    The characters this time around are hit or miss. Enishi and Kenshin themselves take up most of the screen-time, leaving very little time for Yahiko, Sanosuke, and Megumi to do much other than be there. This in turn snowballed into MASSIVE changes to the story and fight scenes. Some of these changes were good - bit characters like Misao got to have moments that far outshined their manga counterparts. Others weren't - again, Yahiko and Sanosuke (who is one of the strongest fighters in the entire manga) got sidelined badly, which meant their respective fights went to other characters; add to that the change in motivation, characterization, and outcome of those fights, and you've got a hardcore fan who isn't happy with all of the changes. Yahiko's absence from the movie led to drawn-out fight scene that left me thinking "man, this film series should just be called Kenshin Vs Guns." Saito Hajime didn't do much except walk around like a Boss, smoke a cigarette, and occasionally swing his sword, but it made for some cool scenes. (It's still a major downgrade from his arc in the manga.)

    There were also a few twists that I wasn't expecting, which made for a nice change of pace overall.

    But let's talk about Enishi. Our antagonist Enishi stole the show. I gave him a pretty chilly reception on his entrance at the beginning of the movie. It didn't seem to fit the character at all. But Enishi won me over as the movie went on, leading to a climax that was so true to the character, the manga, and the movie that I couldn't get enough. Enishi's final scene was one of my favorite in the entire movie, as it was one missing from the manga that I would have liked to see then.

    The fights in this movie are, as always, phenomenally done. There are a lot of quick cuts, but they never feel superfluous. The cuts add to the tempo of the fight; and due to the wirework and choreography when things aren't cut, you rarely feel as if the cuts are trying to hide the actors or the action from the audience. There are a variety of fights here too - there are multiple "crowd vs one swordsman" fights, a nice amount of "one v one" fights, and a good mix of "crowds vs crowds" fights. Some of them are edited together brilliantly as well.

    The plot, again, was abridged and very different from what I expected. Enishi's actions in the manga are intimate, almost singularly focused on Kenshin and those who he interacts with. This is by design, as it contrasts the previous villain Shishio, to whom Kenshin was nothing more than a nuisance. But in the movie, Enishi's actions spill out into the world around Kenshin at large. It makes Enishi feel more like a terrorist at times than a personal demon.

    The abridging did do some things well though. There was one plot arc that happens in the manga and The Rise of Skywalker that doesn't happen in this movie, and I'm very glad it doesn't. The manga had the time to fully explore this plotline; TROS wrapped it up in about three scenes; this movie decides to go the easier (and better for movies IMO) path, to solid effect.

    Overall, Rurouni Kenshin: The Final, was focused on making a good movie first, and a solid adaptation second. In doing so, I think they preserved the heart of the manga, wrapping up Kenshin's story in a satisfactory way, while still leaving their own mark on the franchise. I'd give this a solid 8.5/10. It wasn't my favorite of the Kenshin movies, but it did do some things the best.

    Other notes:
    The actors have AGED. I don't mean this in a bad way, but it's sort of obvious for some of them. Kaoru, while still very young, doesn't have that same youthfulness that she had in the first movie. Her face seems to be almost longer. Yahiko is clearly in puberty and taller, when in the first movie he was a brat. Megumi seems older, but not in an obvious way. Sano looks older, but the movies clearly aged him up, so it doesn't matter too much. (It's just weird when he looks to be about Kenshin's age at times, if not older.) Kenshin looks about the same, but I don't think using him for the flashback story was a good idea for the most part, since he doesn't look the age he's supposed to then. Then again, cinema and television aren't known for accurately portraying teenagers on a constant basis.

    Kenshin's hair was dark to the point of being black. It's been pretty dark in the other movies, but there were always shades of red. That barely showed here, with most of the red coming from his kimono.

    Here's some training and promos for the movie with the actors.

     
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    ...perfection.
     
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    I've been up all day and have to get up in a few hours, so consider this a teaser of what's to come. I saw F9 tonight.

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    My first text to friends after seeing it was "F9 is the love child of a superhero movie where everyone's power is just "CAR" and Justin Lin's Star Wars: Episode IX fan fiction. And I love that part of it."

    This is far from my favorite F&F movie, and I'd give it a B-/C+ at best, but there's a lot of fun to be had in this movie - it truly is a popcorn flick. If you like the franchise, you'll probably like the movie. If not, then you probably won't.

    I'll go over the Star Wars comparisons later on, but they're there.
     
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    Just watched this and a Younger Diego Luna(Cassian) appeared!

    And Catherine Zeta-Jones, a woman with more charisma than my entire village :)
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    Alright, F9 time!

    F9 is a weird movie. It's ambitious in its formatting, while somehow being simultaneously the most intimate and expansive of the F&F movies to date. There's a struggle between the franchise's never-ending need to escalate to oft-memed potential while also keeping the theme of family grounded and human. Lin's love to tie every part of the franchise together also comes back, as Tokyo Drift finally receives a true finale in many ways, while the mostly separate Fate of the Furious becomes sort of like a prequel and motivation for several characters and plot points. Dom and his team split up and hop the globe so many times in this movie that cities are treated like Star Wars planets where as in previous movies, all of the characters stayed in one city or location for the most part.* This movie is Lin's first time back since that change, and it's pretty interesting to see how he handled it. This comes with the genre however - the F&F movies aren't about cars, street races, or cops anymore. They're barely about family in the purest sense (something this movie goes out of its way to correct with the main villain). No, Dom and his team are superhero superspies now. Mr. Nobody is like their M, and street races and Ramsay work together to become Q.

    The acting is always mediocre at best, given that most the cast is mediocre at best, but here they do some of their best work.

    What really stuck out - aside from the whole Star Wars fan fiction thing - was the intimacy in this story. F9 is the story of two brothers who must confront who they are to their families, who their families are, and who they are to each other. Blood doesn't make a family, but sometimes blood can make a family whole. To further accent this, there's an entire flashback storyline about Dom, Jakob, and their father. We start the movie with the fateful day Jack Toretto dies. We see exactly how the confrontation between Dom and that one guy went. And the final scene in the movie is one of bittersweet hope. I do wish Mia was far more present in these flashbacks, but again, this is the story of two brothers, not of the entire family.
    However, this theme makes Paul Walker and Dwayne Johnson's presences far more missed. The characters these two actors played were brothers to Dom, and a story about brotherhood without either brother (RIP Paul) leaves a hole in this story that all the action scenes in the world can't fill.
    That being said, I do like the arcs given to the other members of the cast. Letty has to deal with the fact that the life she loves isn't really the life she has; Roman is trying to reconcile his life after so many crazy adventures, and how insanely lucky (*wink wink*) he and his friends are. Ramsay has to get outside her comfort zone if she wants to save the day. All of these moments...well...all of the moments but Ramsay's...are complimented by quieter drama pieces and more intimate scenes. Again, the genre has changed once again, but Lin's desire for grounded-ness still keep things grounded. Well, as grounded as the franchise can be.

    Now, let's talk about Star Wars. How is F9 like Star Wars as a whole?

    A ragtag group of rebels and family are left a message by their mysterious ally are told to rescue a mysterious item from a hulking figure clad in black who has an entire force at his disposal. The team must go to separate locations and locales (including a variation of their classic watering hole), and struggle to overcome the odds. At the end of the day, it's the teams beliefs in goodness, friendship, and family that saves the world(s).

    Let's get into a few more specifics:

    Nix mysterious item and replace it with a sphere-shaped superweapon. Which is far more accurate, but I didn't want to give away spoilers.

    But the characters work on the level of the ST too:
    Jakob Toretto is Kylo Ren - a dark clothing-wearing fighter and tactician who is motivated by what he didn't have in the past (family and people who didn't understand him, respectfully) to lash out at those who inflicted this pain. Both want a new world order with them on top, and to do the things the person they aspire to be better than couldn't. Both turn to the good side because someone who cares about them saved their life, even though they didn't have to. Lin's Episode IX would seemingly end with Kylo living. On the run, nor redeemed, but alive.

    Jakob's "butler" is Admiral Hux. In both cases, the pair have a contentious working relationship, driven by need and complementary agendas. But once one piece isn't needed, they turn on each other in a heartbeat.

    Cipher plays the role of Palpatine, worming her way into each side, and always the one in control, even when in a cage.

    Dom and the rest of his team aren't necessarily 1-to-1 analogues of the ST characters, as the F&F franchise is far older than the ST. But some parts feel relatable.

    Roman and Tej bicker like C-3PO and R2D2 respectively. Ramsay works like BB-8, a newer, cuter (Nathalie Emmanuel is GORGEOUS) version of both of them.

    You've got your celebrity cameos ala Cardi B (and I think a few others, but I'm not sure), your crazy piloting/driving set-pieces, and a multi-placed finale.

    Lin also works in the character of Brian without actually having Brian be present for the movie, as if this is him saying "see how much better I would have handled Carrie Fisher's passing?". (again, RIP Paul Walker.) Even the retirement of the character is worked into an arc for Dom; and Brian and Dom's 10-second car ending in the first movie is the capstone on Dom and Jakob's arc in the present, as a sign of reconciliation.

    There is a giant talk within F9 about Star Wars too, which is the most hilarious and biting conversation in the entire movie. The "butler" needs to find Jakob, and he tells his men to get their best, and take whatever resources needed. "Cars, planes, X-Wings, even the Millennium Falcon!" and goes on to talk about Chewie. Cipher then comments about exactly where in the movie progress they are, and then the "butler" then conflates himself to Luke Skywalker and Han Solo. Cipher then tells him he's Yoda...not because Yoda is strong, but because "he's a puppet, with someone else's hand up his @%$." It's great y'all.

    There's even a scene like Rey's Force-back in TFA! Dom has been knocked out, and is seemingly dying. Dom flashes back to his past with his dad as a child, to moments hinting at a reveal that he didn't see as a youth, to his own son asking when he'll be home. It's a beautifully edited scene, and by far the weirdest one in the entire franchise. I loved it. But again, this would have felt more in-place in a Star Wars movie than a F&F one.

    Lastly, Lin's own personal goal to tie every single movie together. I have no idea why Lin feels the need to do so, but he does. This results in F9 having characters from previous movies show up here, such as the cast from Tokyo Drift, or Brian's antagonistic FBI friend from F1, 2, and 4. Or Han Soeul-Oh himself. These little moments and cameos make the franchise feel connected, as if they're one long tapestry. Yet they rarely feel forced, nor does the plot feel like it's wholesale ripping off a previous movie in the franchise.**
    This does play into Lin's reluctance to kill characters - he introduced and killed Han in 3, brought him back in 4-6 due to popular demand and his own love of the character, and then recontextualized the death to set up 7. And now he retconned and recontextualized the death again to bring Han back! And tie it into the plot of this movie. I'm not saying it's bad, but it is a bit much. Still, that ability to look at the scenes and arcs within a franchise, recontexualize them for the greater good of said franchise, and then movie forward and tie them into the plot is something that the ST could have used.*** I love RJ's Rashomon-esque flashback in TLJ, but I think Lin could have had some fun if he was in charge of Episode 9 and wanted to incorporate the Force-back from TFA. The only character that's truly died is Giselle, and I'm not 100% sure Lin wouldn't bring her back, if Gal wanted to come back.

    So yeah. Between the above points, the amount of movies, and the almost series finale-esque nature of it all, F9 feels a lot like seeing Lin's take on Star Wars Episode IX. The movie does stand on its own, and is a solid addition in the franchise, but it's not a movie that should be seen in a vacuum, even if it only requires fans to know general knowledge of the franchise at best. (This is where the flashbacks really help.) My overall rankings of the F&F movies, along with Hobbs and Shaw (in order within the tiers)

    Tier 1:
    Fast Five
    Furious Seven
    Fast and Furious 6

    Tier 2:
    Hobbs and Shaw
    The Fast and the Furious (F1) aka "Point Break in cars"
    Fate of the Furious/F9: The Fast Saga

    Tier 3:
    2 Fast 2 Furious (my dad's favorite of the ten, mostly because of Roman's lines and the fact that it takes place in Miami)
    The Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift (the first one in the franchise I saw)


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    I didn't mind Han's flashback, but DEAL LORD HAS THE ACTOR AGED. You can tell he's wearing a wig in the flashbacks, and what scenes are from the original movies and which have been added in. It doesn't help that the actor seems leaner now. Han wasn't young before, but he always had this youthfulness to him. Now he's hardened, and it's very hard to get someone who is hardened to play someone younger. Stephen Amell did a good job of it in Arrow for most of the flashbacks, but he was an exception, not a rule. This is what I'm afraid of with Takeru Satoh in Rurouni Kenshin: The Beginning - Satoh's will be playing a very young version of his character, and while he may have been able to get a little more away with it when they first filmed the trilogy, that first movie is almost 10 years old. I'm not sure how well they can pull it off...


    *You can trace this back to the introduction of Mr. Nobody and the beginning of the franchise's roots in the superspy genre. Each previous movie had one major location and maybe a secondary one at best: Los Angeles, Miami, Tokyo, Los Angeles and Mexico, Brazil, London (and Germany I think); and then in Furious 7, things changed.

    **However, I wouldn't mind this being the case for F10 and F11. I think the F&F movies have reached their zenith in terms of craziness. I personally would prefer them to strip away the varnish and get back to the roots of the franchise. Explore Dom coming home to LA and realizing that the street culture has changed so much that he doesn't recognize it. Have him try to take in another upstart only for it eerily mirror Dom and Brian's relationship in the original movie. Movie from talking about family to legacy. Stop making movies like Days of Future Past and Apocalypse, and do something smaller, like Logan. (Which, fun fact, is one of my most hated movies of all time. I LOATHE Logan. But it does a lot right and is an objectively great film.)

    ***I imagine Lin would be the type of person to recontextualize why Vader amputated Luke's hand. If I were to take a stab (heh) at my Lin-inspired TROS - which does sound like a very fun project...which I may have to continue...yeah I'm going to make a full thing now, aren't I? - I'd say that Lin would make it so that during his time on Tatooine, Obi-Wan figured out something about the nature of the Light Side and the Dark Side of the Force. He used his time on Tatooine to encode that message and knowledge into Anakin's lightsaber, since he believed that Luke, as the Chosen One, would be the one to unlock the information and use it well. Vader, later sensed this, and amputated Luke before he gain that information. And when the lightsaber was loss, so was the information. However, Maz found it, and it calling to Rey was not about her heritage, or her family, or anything like that. It was the Force telling Rey that she was the one who would finish what Kenobi started. These were her first steps on the journey to reconcile the past to create a brighter future. But all of this is me spit-balling. I'll need more time - and probably an F9 re-watch - to truly put this together.
     
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    I just watched Shutter island. The soundtrack was good but i was not expecting the plot twist at the end
     
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