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OFFICIAL NEWS Lawrence Kasdan says Episode VIII will be "weird"

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lord Skywalker, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. Mbruno

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    Considering that Episode VIII is rumored to have been largely rewritten after Kasdan said that, I would assume most of the "weirdness" is actually gone now.
     
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    I think that's a big assumption. Sounds to me like they wanted to increase the screen time of the TFA characters, not necessarily reduce the 'weirdness'.
     
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    The rewrite was done because of the way the new characters were introduced in TFA and that most fans have grown to love them. Parts of the script were rewritten so that we get to spend more time with Rey, Finn and Poe. All they did was reduce the roles a bit of the additional new characters who would still appear in VIII so that we get to learn more about the new trio. This allows more time for them to breathe and be flesh out. I can't wait!
     
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    This is nothing but a rumor. There is no source for any of the stuff you said. The truth is, no one knows why Disney had Rian rewrite it, or to what extent. I just hope it's for the better.
     
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    Well that's just the way I looked at it when I read that there was going to be some rewrites and take it or leave it but it was just something I thought was interesting on Cinemablend.com I don't usually follow mainstream entertainment sites like CB other than Comicbook websites. So what if it's just a rumor at this point. Besides, if Disney didn't want word of rewrites get out to us and have us wondering about what the reason was for them, we wouldn't be discussing this now, would we?. But as always there are ways in which someone from the inside would have knowledge of "rewrites" and leak it as a rumor (ie: that leak script video on youtube and no I have not watched it). I imagine that Disney would still want to keep things tight lip considering there were things that had to be kept in secrecy around TFA. I do, however, expect things to be kept under wraps for VIII and IX as time goes by. I want this ST to be really good than try to live up to the hype which the PT tried to do because after all, it was the OT that started it all.

    I am glad that we are getting a ST after all this time and it's what I've been waiting for since growing up with Star Wars my whole life up to this moment. With low expectations, I am not as eager to know everything about every little aspect of a film that hasn't come out yet but has only begun filming. So I'll have to find ways of utilizing my time while avoiding spoilers when 2017 rolls around.
     
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    This is true. It's hard to know what was re-written when we don't know what was written in the first place!

    IF, it was because of character screen time, I'd bet it was for Finn. I think he would have less time if he wasn't well received by fans. Considering his story was pretty much concluded in TFA (Stormtrooper defects, helps good guys, rescues his friend, etc). He could have died and his story would have been fulfilling. But, I think it's great he's going to get a shot at filling the Han Solo wise-cracking solider role.
     
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    Even though all of this is pure speculation on all of our parts we can gather that afinn had a much more physical role in VIII on par with DR so even though his story is technically complete we're seeing what I want to refer to as the "after party" of his story .
     
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    I gave your post a wise rating... because really we don't know the whole reason. Even I hate it when I speculate stuff and trust me, I am not good at it because I know I'm usually not always right about some things. Especially when I read interviews and or happen to come across a quote said by so and so because that quote itself could have easily been taken out of context. It happens. I was merely speculating what some people were saying and what CB had posted on their site. They always post some interesting articles but sometimes they post ones that I don't agree with. Sorry if I came off in my post as saying that that is what it was and not as a rumor when really it is just a rumor. At least from a certain point of view... I'll have to watch how I word things, I guess.

    Sometimes my brain works over time when I try to write what I want to convey, which results certain things I didn't mean to be taken the wrong way. usually for me, when I think of something I want to say but when I go about saying it to someone, it comes out differently than what I thought inside my head. and ...people are like, wha? :(

    I like this post because I also agree.
     
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    I actually hope episode 8 is weird. Star Wars is suppose to be weird; it's out of this galaxy! I'd love to see different elements of the force, force ghosts, space jargon, space humor, new technology, temples, architecture, abnormal places etc. JJ played it safe which is just fine. Now it's time to take some risks, which I believe Rian Johnson will do.
     
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    He does not say he's read the script. He just says he knows Rian, and that Rian usually does something weird. This in no way states definitively that anything will be "weird" about Ep. VIII.
     
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    It's not a Gus Van Sant shot for shot remake by any stretch of the imagination. But it's a perfectly valid criticism that the film is in a large way a remix, if you will, of A New Hope. Just be perfectly fair the film is loaded with call backs to all of the Star Wars films in virtually every scene, some of them work better than others. It's definitely JJ's best impersonation of other filmmakers to date. It's also more forgivable here than in his Star Trek reboot because it's Star Wars and every Star Wars movie has done this same sort of thing.

    For my money the best thing about The Force Awakens is Kylo Ren, I would actually go as far to say that I have a new appreciation for Hayden Christensen thanks to this performance. They brilliantly turned the worst aspects of prequel era Anakin into a very solid antagonist. Something I honestly was not expecting.

    That said, I would take Kasdan's comments with a grain of salt, I don't suspect Episode 8 will be something so perfectly molded and market tested as TFA and aim to make the most it possibly can out of nostalgic call backs, but I seriously doubt it'll be anything that totally breaks the mold and doesn't fit right in either.
     
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    can you clarify? what does this mean?

    edit: so, Benny, you come back nearly a week later to rate a request for clarification as "unoriginal"?
    seeing as i already had one of those, you could have gone with dislike or off-topic.
    how ironic.
     
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    Kylo, like his grandfather before him is a whiny selfish jerk with a bad mullet. Thought it was rather obvious that much of Kylo's whiny playground bully persona is a callback to Anakin's worst moments in the prequels.
     
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    i get that the two characters are obviously very similar.
    i just don't understand why Kylo Ren makes you appreciate Hayden Christiansen (i.e. a character makes you appreciate an actor).
    your original phrasing sounds like you were making a judgment about the actors, so i was trying to clarify.
     
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    Kasdan just wrote a script that has been largely accused of rehashing the original Star Wars trilogy - particularly Episode IV. After writing that, anything that doesn't do the same could be considered "weird".
     
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    I especially look forward to "weird"ness in Episode VIII if such strange and supernatural implications of the word also suggest, among other exciting possibilities, we might get to experience more aspects and mysteries of the Force.

    The origin of the word weird is quite appropriate in the context of this saga:
    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/weird
    (if you scroll down their page)

    Some more potential mind-blowers here in the deeper exploration of the word's etymology:
    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=weird

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    I love how you guys say finns story was complete in TFA. Why would they say he was a star and co lead for the ST if his story only mattered to carry a lightsaber for Rey lol
     
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    Completely agree with this, 100%. Whilst it was a homage, I absolutely loved it. The only thing I really had problems with was Starkiller base. Without that, it could have definitely got away with not being compared to ANH.

    Anyway, back on topic. But you're absolutely right, that has to be the end of comparisons. All films moving forward should be 95=100% original, with only a few references to previous films (and even the animated series). There are enough great creative writers and ideas in a galaxy, that we never need to repeat stories.
     
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    It was never confirmed at all, the extent of the re-write. But considering that production started only a couple weeks after the "rumoured" re-write, it is safe to say that the changes were most likely minor.

    One thing that people need to understand, is that re-writes are a VERY common practice in movie making, and can happen right up to the first day of shooting, and even during. But it does not, nor does it ever confirm that the entire plot or direction of the story is changing. If I were to write and script, then 2 weeks before production was scheduled to start, and re-wrote 5 lines of dialogue.... that could be considered a re-write. :)
     
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