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SPOILER Legacy

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by alex, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. alex

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    I enjoyed this episode, but was expecting something more from the mid-season finale.

    the good:
    * How connected the show is. The writers writers really adhere to the principle of checkov's gun. (minor things have payoffs)

    *Ezra's going dark son. The way he charged after the inquisitors....this dude has some impulse control issues.

    * Sabine's idea to disable the tractor beam. That thought was used in the EU, shooting a missile into the tractor beam. Don't know if this was intentional or not. Liked how Hera saved the day when it didn't pan out.

    * a believable way for the crew to split up.

    the weird (not bad, just minor complaints):
    * So ezra is an ace as deflecting bolts back unless Kalus is shooting?

    *Those inquisitors...what a **** tease. Why were they even in this episode?
     
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    I thought for the most part that this episode was the weakest and rather disappointing for the mid season final. As for Ezra, he seemed to force choke Kalus while pushing him with the Force in a very dark way and i was waiting for Kanan to say something like or show some concern. I would have liked to see Ezra do against those inquisitors, as he was in a rage.

    But overall, i though the episode was really weak. They have had great episodes and then just failed to deliver.
     
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    Yeah, with the way they built up the mystery of Ezra's parents for so long I really expected more from the final reveal. I thought it would be far more difficult for Ezra to find out what happened to them, and I expected a more interesting conclusion. The emotion was good, but the whole thing felt kind of rushed and half-assed. Meh.

    And I agree that Ezra seems to be going down a dark path. Kanan needs to keep a closer eye on that kid!
     
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    Yeah, just as you mention it i thought the episode was rushed as well and it seemed very disjointed. I am not sure that Kanan can do that per se, how long was he a Padawan before Order 66? How much training did he have? Also, id like to see Kanan have a discussion with Ashoka about Ezra, she is far more a Jedi than he is.
     
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    I liked this episode, it had a lot of "Star Wars moments" for me...

    From TFA - the map's holograms:
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    From the OT - the Tie pilot, the blockade runner under the star destroyer and the ending with the 2 moons:
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    From the PT - the jump to the leaving ship (granted, Ahsoka also did that in the last ep):
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    I think it was to be expected that the parents would have died, otherwise Ezra would be split between wanting to stay with them and continuing with the rebellion.
    I wonder what they will do with the ex-governor guy.. Will we see him again?

    Ezra keeps flirting with the Dark side...
    I think this will probably happen at some point in the season, if Ezra doesn't change with his parents message...


    But from all that, I think my favorite part was this exchange:
    K: You've grown powerful if you can track that Loth-cat with the Force...
    E: The Force? I planted a tracker on it, Kanan.
    K: Of course you did... :rolleyes:


    Agree, on both counts, these were definitely the weak points of the episode for me...
     
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    I feel more like Ezra becomes Kylo more than ever. i f my theory about the emperor having him frozen in carbonite after the events of TESB, so that he could be released or awakened at a much needed later date. I have a feeling that the series finale will have Ezra and Asoka dueling with Ezra being the Victor and killing Asoka...
     
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    I think the episode was fine, as any old episode, but a bit of an anti-climax for the mid-season finale, though, what I did like was the tone, it felt like TESB to an extent, with the rebels being forced to flee their base and the bitter sweet ending, it just needed one more bit of umph; Maybe even a short lightsaber duel with the seventh sister getting inside Ezra's head and more being made of his rage. His hate made him powerful, after all.
     
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    All of the above. The one question I have is did anyone else think there was something a little weird going on with Ezra's hair? It was like he had some semblance of a buzz cut right before his hair grew out. It might have been just my computer, but I'm just curious. Otherwise it was a really solid episode! That being said, I think X-10 is hiding something from us.

     
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    I think he'll add more rebels to the crew to be used as emotional fodder later in the season. There aren't enough characters that we know and care about to kill off besides the main crew.

    It seems like the next episode is a direct continuation of this episode...I wish they would've given us the full 2 parter.
     
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    You know how they are looking for a base, what if they establish a base on Hoth? It would be interesting in bring in that fact, i think it would make people go OMG moment. As for Ahoska, Ezra and Kanan i think that Ahoksa/Kanan episode needs to be where he needs Ahoska help, she is far more an Jedi than Kanan to address the Ezra issue. It has been stated a number of times that Kanan is going to come to a moment of what kind of Jedi he wants to become, while Ezra seems very clouded in what direction he will take. It is very much in the way of Anakin, as well Ezra is always been hunted down as a Rebel, that would change anyone but Ezra didnt go through what Kanan did, if anyone move towards the dark side i am surprised that Kanan didnt. But, the Ezra issue needs to be addressed.
     
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    That would be cool, but in the Heir to the Jedi novel, that is set between ANH and ESB, they were still looking for a base...
    They may find Dantooine, the base referenced by Leia to Tarkin in ANH?
     
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    That'd be a good idea! And maybe it can tie into Rogue One as well!
     
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    I am sure we will see Prisoner X-10 (the ex-governor) again later this season. I am, however, not sure whether Ezra's parents are really dead. The description of their deaths was rather vague. Something about getting separated. Prisoner X-10 does not say something like "and then the guards shot your father and mother in the back". It seems that he did not see them dying and that he is merely presuming that they are dead.
     
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    This show kinda shakes up the perception of the rebel alliance. I think that most thought that the alliance in 4-6 was pretty much the same group, but in one of the rebels recons, they say that Sato's group joins up after EP 5 and brings the b-wings to the fight. He described ANH as "dodonna's rebels".

    I don't know how this makes sense in relation to Leia and Bail being from 2 different rebel factions, but these comments, in conjunction with the planned 6 year run for the show, leads one to think that we will follow Sato's band of rebels up to ROTJ rather than ANH.
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    Check out the rebels recon, they confirm the parents death. They said that wanted to give closure to that arc while sending ezra on a path much different from luke.
     
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    Thank you for the information. I have not seen Rebels Recon. Ezra seems to have some darkness in him and dealing with the insecurity about his parents' fate seems to bring that darkness out. Ezra's darkness is one of the things that makes the series good (for me at least) and I guess that I wanted the series to delve deeper into Ezra's darkness. I was probably biased when watching the scene in which Prisoner X-10 explained what had happened. :)
     
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    Recon's are the best, sometimes better than the episodes (except the chopper cam bits....which I guess is for small kids.). After each show I watch recon, read the trivia gallery, and watch the collider jedi council recap show.
     
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    Ezra sure is flirting with the dark side. He needs to get those emotions in check.

    Anyway, I found this to be one of the weaker episodes of the season, and rather anti-climatic for a mid-season finale. I mean it was still a decent episode, but I hope they return to form after the break, because the last few episodes before this one were excellent.
     
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    To be honest, I don't like how I need to watch Recons to get information of the story. The SHOW is the one that's suppose to be driving the narrative, not behind-the-scene clips. The worst example of this is with Wollfe and Gregor: They mention the reason why they didn't join in Recon, but there is NO explanation in the show.

    As for this week's episode, I liked it. It's a bit rushed but it was still good. The ending was the best part, imo.
     
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    It was a much different tone for a midseason finale - but I liked it. It had a subtlety to it that you don't normally see in TV shows. The reveal of Ezra's parent's death was somber, yet subtle and dignified. Not some melodramatic "no!" moment, and not some overly sad moment - Ezra breaking down and crying moment felt real, not over acted. Having the reflection "force" moment with his parents was a nice closure, and for once actually liked that they didn't feel like they had to go out with a bang. I liked that he found out that they did hear him and he learned they were proud of him, without ever having to show them in the episode.

    Points of note:
    • Hera's gutsy sideswipe of the tractor beam
    • The long payoff of Hera getting info from Ceebo regarding Ezra's parents (almost an entire season length between the beginning and ending to that topic, with almost no mention in between. The many integrated moments from one episode to the next is one of my favorite aspects of this show)
    • The Imperials actually trying to coordinate to take down the Rebels
    • Ezra's hair is looking less Superman blue/black and looks more like his Infinity figure
    • There was a really nice shot as Kanaan separated from the Ghost in The Phantom
    • The imperial invasion and the Rebel escape had a nice ominous feeling to it.
     
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    That felt...anticlimactic. Oh well.

    Fits with my general opinion of this season: not as good as it should have been.
     
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