Leia's message to Ben

If you think HUX is no different then a stormtrooper then he should go to rehab as well...LOL... insufficient information to judge REN...DUDE...LOL

 

No dude I won't pardon HUX, I would locked him up in rehab and punish (BOSS NASS VOICE) KYLO because he is fighting the light he knows exactly what he is doing.

 

YEP, allot of confused idiots get punished, your welcome very much moderator sir LOL

 

SW highlights a weakness of so called intelligent social biological beings I was always fascinated but I have a lot of troubles with it at the same time:
The inner dynamics of crowds within themselves and between crowds and their leaders and it is very difficult to judge who is the real carrier of guilt. Most of the judgements are huge simplifications of very complex problems and we tend to identify an escape goat where people can project all their frustration and lust for revenge. I am afraid; that always seem to work.
Wars doesn't make anyone great; I think Luke is the only one who is totally aware of this.

 

And even so, they seemed to have defeated the Empire but not at all because there were those remnants that went MIA but ended up resurfacing as the First Order. And not necessarily as part of the FO, we read as well in Bloodline that many of the Centrist senators were Empire fanboys. Even Casterfo admiring the ways of the Galactic Empire while hating the Emperor was like a modern fascist admiring the ways of the Third Reich but hating Hitler. (I don't know if I made the point I wanted, but the thing is that instead of making sure everyone was aware of the dangers and evil of the Empire, it seemed like as time went by, some thought the Empire was actually not that bad.

Yeah like saying "Vader's daughter, y'all!"

And that's why I understood why Claudia Gray left out of "Leia Princess of Alderaan" any mention of the Dark Lord. E. K. Johnston in "Ahsoka" made such a beautiful job including that episode where Bail is shown as still having PTSD of having witnessed Order 66 in the Jedi Temple, and his fears of his adopted one year-old daughter - who he loves deeply - of inheriting her real father Force skills. That's why the Organas tried to keep her away from the attention of the Inquisitors or even the Dark Lord himself. Especially if at that age, Moff Panaka noticed her likeness to Padme so he put two and two together and had not been killed by that Partisans attack, the Emperor and his apprentice would have found her.

I find it hard to understand since, at least, you can get why the Organas didn't mention anything about her origins to Leia, due to the situation in the Galaxy regarding the Force users and the Jedi. After the demise of the Emperor, they could have protected Ben but telling him the truth and warning him of any unknown dangers. I recall the treatment of the old EU that actually Leia was afraid to have kids since she thought her children might be prone to fall into the Dark Side so... why this Leia didn't think about that and how to prevent it?

If only Leia had dragons. LOL.

 

And even more because if I recall correctly, he and his family were in some sort of concentration camp, so the contradiction is bigger for him.

Just imagine the possibilities: maybe Vader would have gotten an apprentice on his own daughter? Not saying she would voluntarily agree but she could have been manipulated by Vader and the Emperor.

I just wonder how the Emperor is going to find out Luke is Anakin's son (not yet explored by the canon media other than TESB).

I know: perhaps we would not have a story like the one we got!

On an alternate reality, Luke tells Leia: "You don't have to choose. You're a Skywalker and an Organa."



@DarthSnow and @Addi Ras will understand the reference

The Skywalkers are the space Targaryens LOL.

 

I know you guys are mostly talking about a book I haven't read, but I always thought Vader just told Palpatine after finding out.

 

In the comics, Boba Fett tells Darth Vader the last name of Luke (Skywalker) and Vader puts two and two together. Previously they faced each other briefly in a covert mission and Vader recognizes Luke's lightsaber. He got away but Vader sent Boba and then Dr. Aphra to further investigate the truth. All of this is done behind the Emperor and Dr. Aphra tells the Emperor about the power grabbing Vader had been done (since it is narrated how Vader falls from grace with Palpatine after the Battle of Yavin and the DS fiasco) but there is no indication the Emperor knows just yet. From The Empire Strikes Back:

Darth Vader: [kneeling before Emperor Palpatine's hologram] What is thy bidding, my master?
Emperor Palpatine: There is a great disturbance in the Force.
Darth Vader: I have felt it.
Emperor Palpatine: We have a new enemy. The young Rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker.
Darth Vader: How is that possible?
Emperor Palpatine: Search your feelings, Lord Vader. You will know it to be true. He could destroy us.

So it seems The Emperor finds by himself later on, not told by Darth Vader, since he feigns surprise when the Emperor tells him.

 

I voted yes, but arrives to late. Leia always sent messages to Ben's the hard way! Guess they didn't have android galaxy notes

 

Yeah, I'm currently slogging through the Star Wars comic. I haven't read Vader, Vader Down or Dr. Aphra yet, but even in the Legends EU, Vader was always trying to one-up Palpatine so I didn't expect anything different there. However, I do remember the comic where Vader had Boba Fett seek out a severed head that told the future so he could find out if he ever became more powerful than Palpatine, actually I think he was doing it for Palpatine at first. When he got the head from Fett, he asked it what he wanted, destroyed it and then he still had to tell Palpatine a half-truth about his discovery.

I guess that's how I always assumed it went down between Vader and Palpatine regarding Luke. Vader told him a half-truth.

But I clearly didn't remember that line from TESB. Wow, has it been so long since I last watched the OT? LOL, I managed to compartmentalize that line from TESB and my own thoughts about how Palpatine found out...LOL.