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Let George Lucas co-write episode 9 with Lawrence Kasdan and get J.J. to direct it.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode IX' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, Dec 6, 2015.

  1. Grand Admiral Kraum

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    Bring in Michael Ardnt too. It would be like combining all the old with the new.. Lucas has more Star Wars stories in him I know it.
     
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    What about Colin Treverrow...
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    And Lucas can't since he's not with The WGA anymore .
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    Let's bring in Spielberg while we're at it .
     
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    Disney can give Colin Pirates of the Carribean 12 or something, who cares

    J.J. AND Spielberg directing! :D
     
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    Naw Fart, Colin needs IX . JJ is exec producing SW from TFA onwards . Lucas has vowed to only make art house films now and Speilberg is washed out tbh...maybe SW will reinvigorate his career...
     
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    Lucas is the calvary. If they fumble things big. They will bring back big GL to bring back the magic.
     
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    Get Trevorrow OUT!
     
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    George's storytelling is his strong suit just not as good as many others in directing.

    George's best work was always when there was more creative input from those around him as well as constraints on budget etc.

    Having all the $$ in the world and no one to answer to creatively is not always the great gift one may think it to be.
     
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    No J.J. Abrams. I don't want him anywhere near a future STAR WARS movie. One can criticize George Lucas all they want. He can still direct circles around Abrams, as far as I'm concerned. For me, the Prequel movies are examples of this.
     
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    blfd gdfg
     
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    George Lucas no longer has any interest in collaborating with people for Star Wars.

    The prequels made that painfully obvious.
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    The prequels showed that Lucas is a lousy director. Whatever skill he may of had in the 70's vanished as he got older. He has no clue what good acting is, so his actors get absolutely nothing out of him. His dialogue is garbage. He cannot block a scene besides some boring compositions of people sitting around on a couch or slowly walking down a hall. He sits on a chair in front of a monitor while his actors meander around a green screen.

    We need directors who have an understanding of what quality acting is, appreciates real sets and practical effects, gives us likable characters who aren't flat, lifeless cardboard cutouts and who will make exciting, energetic movies that are a lot of fun to watch.

    To me JJ filled that bill perfectly. Lucas is the antithesis of that.
     
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    while i agree with your points, we also need a director/writer who is able to devise an original plot..
     
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    Well George has creative outline on the episodes that are coming out. as far as the story, Disney didnt want to go in the direction of his sequel trilogy. George did want J.J. to start it off and I feel that J.J. took alot of George Lucas ideas. I feel like they(Disney) will use Lucas original 12 Episode outline and conclude it. i think they should end it at Episode X. Thats just me. I dont want to see them recycle the SW Saga.
     
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    I am not a huge fan of Jurassic World which was directed and co-written by Colin Trevorrow. Then again, that was the only work of his I watched, and Rian Johnson is writing so I am pretty excited for IX on the whole. I think Rian Johnson is going to do something great and original with these two films and satisfy even the most stubborn fans.
     
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    The Force Awakens had an original plot. No other Star Wars film was about people looking for clues to locate a missing Jedi Knight before evil forces tracked him down to kill him. The idea that the film is a copy or a clone of A New Hope is idiotic. It contained many familiar elements to previous episodes, but it was no more a copy of that movie than Episode I was.
     
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    While I'm not accusing it of being a "clone" of ANH, I personally found the parallels (or exact story elements) to be overused. Yes, the opening crawl said that two sides are looking for the map to Luke Skywalker, but very little of the ACTUAL film had much to do with it beyond the beginning. If you're going to mention THAT aspect of it, don't forget to mention the parts where

    -a rebellious figure has vital information
    -the vital information is then put into a droid that is on the same team as said rebellious figure
    -while stormtroopers attack the same location, a dark menacing villain with a cape and mask appears
    -this mysterious villain interrogates the rebellious figure for information
    -but the vital information is in the droid that HAPPENS to be on a desert planet
    -we then meet our protagonist, who is a lonely, adventure seeking individual who lives on said desert world
    -who HAPPENS to rescue our droid from becoming shredded into parts
    -the figure learns what information the droid is carrying
    -stormtroopers attack
    -our hero + team HAPPEN to find the millenium falcon which transports them from said desert world
    -the millenium falcon is then piloted by none other than han solo himself
    -oh and let's not forget, we have a cantina scene in there
    -there happens to be a spy in the cantina
    -a giant planet destroying weapon is then introduced by a menacing general
    - our female protagonist is captured and subsequently rescued by the other heroes
    - the rebels decide how to destroy said planetary weapon at a central weakspot
    - many x-wings fly to said planetary weapon, looking to isolate that central weakspot
    -said x-wings then fly down a trench/corridor to said weakspot
    -said weapon is destroyed
    - at the end, our wise and elderly mentor is murdered by someone very close to them


    I have just described to you the exact plot of "A New Hope" and "The Force Awakens". Were there new characters? Yes. Were there new story elements? Yes. I will acknowledge everything fairly. But I will say that anyone would be foolish not to acknowledge the fact that the plot was the exact same thing as Episode IV.The movie is NOT just about the "search for Luke Skywalker". If you think that "The Phantom Menace" is as much of a copy of "A New Hope" as "The Force Awakens" is, I would consider that idiotic.
     
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    Yeah, that's not the plot of the movie at all.

    Most of those items are situations that happen WITHIN the plot, and have been done in multiple Star Wars movies. You could do the exact same thing with Episode I, which has every bit as many similarities to A New Hope as The Force Awakens.

    Very little of the plot had to do with finding Luke?

    Are you kidding? The whole damn movie had to do with finding Luke. You are focusing on all the "filler" as the plot when it simply wasn't.

    The whole opening mission is to retrieve the map piece by both Poe and Kylo.
    Then the object of the movie becomes Rey and Finn delivering BB-8 with the map to the Resistance.
    This is all happening while Kylo is searching for Luke's whereabouts as well via intercepting the droid so he can go kill him.
    The movie ends with the final objective being met by Rey.

    The plot of TFA was about finding Luke.
    The plot of A New Hope was about delivering the Death Star plans and mounting an attack on it.

    Two different plots. Similar situations in-between do not make them the same.
     
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    Why would Lucas want to contribute to a story that’s already deviated from his own plans? The story they’re telling now isn’t his anymore. Put yourself in his shoes.

    Imagine a kid who sold his favorite toy to the boy down the street. He can still come over and play with it but only when the other boy says and only in the way the other boy says. “Screw that noise. I got my own toys.”
     
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    you're telling me all of those points
    are similar between phantom menace and a new hope? i've officially deemed you a fool. i have no reason to continue this discussion.
     
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    No...and I am leaving it at that.

    (emperor)


    *slowly backs off into the shadows and runs away*
     
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    I'd love to see George get involved in some way. Writing, or advising, or giving direction on production design. But mostly writing. I want to see George's Star Wars, not fan fiction.
     
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