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SPECULATION Lightsaber Crystals

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Kyber, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. Kyber

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    ((**SPOILERS FROM THE NOVEL "AHSOKA" DOWN BELOW**))

    In Star Wars canon, Jedi younglings acquire their "Kyber crystals" through a trial called "The Gathering" on the ice planet of Ilum.

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    The raw crystal is clear, which makes it impossible for people who are not Force-sensitive to find them. The crystals look like ice. Only a Force-sensitive would be able to distinguish the Kyber crystal in a sea of ice. When a Jedi youngling imbues the power of the Force with the Kyber crystal, the crystal is ready for use, and as a result produce a green or blue lightsaber blade. This is the case for the majority of Kyber crystals.

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    Recently, in the canon novel "Ahsoka", it was revealed red lightsabers are the result of taking a Jedi's Kyber crystal and corrupting it with the Dark Side of the Force. This is how, I imagine, the Inquisitors, Palpatine, Vader, Maul, and (possibly) Kylo, ascertained a red Kyber crystal. Pablo also recently hinted at a Dark Side version of "the Gathering", but I imagine this was only intended for Sith. But that is speculative on my part. I think the majority of red sabers were acquired through corrupting a Jedi's Kyber crystal with the Dark Side of the Force.

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    It was also revealed in the book that Ahsoka's white blades are the result of taking a "bled" Kyber crystal or red crystal and removing or purging the Dark Side from it. She got the bled crystals from an Inquisitor she had killed.

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    Here is where the speculation kicks in. Pablo revealed in a Tweet recently that Temple Guards didn't make their yellow double-bladed lightsabers. It was given to them along with the armor when they were "on duty", and had personal lightsabers of their own when they were off duty. The Temple Guard was only a part-time job. There is no explanation as to how to make a Kyber crystal yellow.

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    ...Or even purple.

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    My questions are:

    1.) How do you think yellow Kyber crystals are made?
    2.) How do you think purple Kyber crystals are made? (Yes, I know the real reason. Samuel L. Jackson wanted to a unique bad a**) But speculate an in-universe reason.
    3.) What colors would you like to see added to the canon? If you have colors you would like, invent a reason how one would acquire this crystal.
    4.) What color blade would you have if you were a Jedi... or Sith?
    5.) And lastly, what do you think determines if a Jedi has a green or blue saber? There is a large sense of mystery to it, and I like that. Pablo has admitted he could "sort of" see the appeal of the Kyber crystal being a sorting hat, so let's speculate!

    Feel free to have an open discussion, theorize with each other, don't -just- answer the questions.

    Cheers!
     
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    Great post, @Kyber !

    I'd suggest you include the SPOILER tag to the thread, since it does include material from a recently published canon material

    When I read this part, I thought of kyber crystals and lightsabers as the wands in the Harry Potter universe. Though there are more variables into wandmaking (inner core substance, wood, length, etc) the similarity I find is how the kyber crystal "sings" to the Jedi who will be its owner, same way as Ollivander would have said "the wand chooses the wizard".

    Having said this, I reckon they are leaving the yellow lightsabers for a future canon project. My guess is that maybe the Jedi Council is the one who can get the kyber crystals for those lightsabers or maybe there was a reservoir of specific kyber crystals destined for guarding the Jedi Temple. Maybe is part of more "mumbo-jumbo" that will be explained on another story.

    Regarding the purple, I highly doubt the theories about purple being the result of the lightsaber owner combining Light and Dark side to be true. I guess it is more like a personal preference. Why there are not more purple lightsabers? Good question.

    I would love a bright pink lightsaber. Or maybe an orange one! I'd have a pink if possible, but personally I'd be fine with a blue one.

    I've heard other comments regarding blue or green being a good predictor if the Force wielder who uses it is more prone to turn to the Dark Side. But we don't know if that is true. We know for example Luke could use his father lightsaber and, when he lost it, could make another one and it was green.
     
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    Mass produced I suppose. They’re maybe raw Kybers with no Force injection. Neutral with respect to Forciness.
    Well, purple is a combination of blue and red. So, you could theorize that Mace’s Forciness naturally lands somewhere between light and dark?
    None. I think they should have stopped with ‘blue’ and ‘red’ and not started all this rainbow nonsense.
    Well, green is a combination of blue and yellow. So, you could theorize that green saber wielders' Forciness naturally lands somewhere between light and neutral.

    *Of course the real reason is because Luke having a blue saber in the opening of ROTJ wouldn't contrast enough with the blue sky.

    **Also, there’s the ‘black’ saber that Pre Vizsla used in TCW. Maybe the opposite of a 'white' saber?
     
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    I'm still in the process of digesting all of this Kyber crystal stuff.

    Great thread, nonetheless.
     
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    I hope we get a flashback scene of how Ezra got his green one.
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    Personally, I think that the color of the lightsaber is based on your spectrum in the force, it represents your beliefs and your faith. Most Jedi's lightsabers our the same color because they all believe in the same way of life. While, most of them are blue or green I feel that is because the majority of Jedi grew up and raised in the same way of life and teachings it makes sense they would all be around the same color.


    As for Mace you can clearly see that he walks the very thin line between light and dark all the time. I mean in the book Dark Disciples
    Mace is the one that came up with the idea of assassinating Count Dooku. I would reckon that 99% of all Jedi would never even think about assassination.
    So, with all of what we know about Mace, I could see that his saber couldn't be blue or green cause he is one of the darker Jedi. Because for me, the color is based off of personality.


    Yellow sabers I think is a combination of a group of Jedi, probably whoever is on the council at the time, gets together and uses the force together to find the PUREST crystal's out there. That is why they are not green, blue, or even purple...They belong to noone so they don't have a personality behind them.


    Do I want to see different colors in future sabers? Only if it is justified, I don't need another different color saber because the actor wants it....if the story makes sense then I am all for it.


    Out of all the colors we have for sabers now...I love the white ones. If I can have any color um...orange would match my vest


    For me this was one of the best part of the new Ahsoka book, great discussion.
     
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    From a hue perspective, there are six basic colors - three primary colors (red, yellow, blue) and three secondary colors (orange, green, violet (purple)).

    Secondary colors are the sum of two primary colors:
    red + yellow = orange
    yellow + blue = green
    red + blue = purple

    Elementary stuff we all probably know.

    *IF* the color-to-Force relationship is: red = Dark | yellow = Neutral | blue = Light | then the secondary colors would symbolize the following:
    orange = Neutral leaning towards Dark (very rare due to darksiders tending to be more extreme)
    green = Neutral leaning towards Light (more common since lightsiders are a bit more flexible)
    purple = both Dark and Light (less common since most tend to identify more with one or the other)

    As it so happens, my complete BS explanation puts yellow and purple as opposites with respect to the color wheel. Which would jive with yellow being the absence of both Dark and Light and purple being the presence of both Dark and Light . . . . . . . . . nifty.

    Well, that’s just about enough of that for me.
     
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    I knew I should've paid more attention in Art. One of the better explanations I have heard in awhile.
     
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    Pablo Hidalgo responded to a question regarding this on twitter. He said that most of the temple guards probably have their own lightsaber as well. Yellow lightsabers are just a part of their uniform, much like their robes.
     
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    1.) Kyber crystals are simply natural crystals that combine their midichlorians with a force sensitive person's midichlorians and the midichlorians merge with the person and the blade changes a color based on the user's personality traits but they are predominantly only blue and green because of the traits of the jedi and their individuality as wellas the way theya re trained.

    2.) Purple kyber crystals are made the same way that green and blue are made but mace windu is tapped into a special spectrum of the force causing a purple color.

    3.) an invisible blade that is used by a neutral force user with no affiliation.

    4.) I would have a green blade because that's my favorite color with a combination of a wood/leather grip where the saber can only activate if it has my handprint on it.

    5.) Look at #1 #!.
     
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    Well, shoot, if we’re making up fan fic sabers here: I’d implant a crystal directly into my palm (maybe both) and utilize it using the same basic concept behind Force lightning. No tech. Keep it all organic. Logically, it should probably just melt my hand off, but I can dream, damn it!
     
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    lol the leather would be the wrapping around the metallic part that holds the plasma stuff.
     
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    @eeprom Why not just eat them instead? Trust me, u don't want TWO mechanical hands.
     
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    Gotta imagine those crystals are pretty rough to pass though. Ew, maybe that's how you make a brown lightsaber.
     
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    Yeah, I knew that, but how did those yellow lightsabers were made in the first place? I guess that was the question.
     
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    By collecting yellow kyber crystals from dead Jedi. Boring but highly possible :D.
     
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    To answer your questions regarding how yellow and purple lightsabers are made:

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    Interesting tweet, I'm glad that's cleared up.
     
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    Ha ha ha ha ha - so, in other words, "just because".
     
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    If were going with our own saber ideas then this is the one for me. This would be a sith's blade for sure. The blade would be around 40 inches with a slight adjustment to it mabey 36 to 40 inches. Also an adjustable handle length. This is an important piece for this saber. The crystal would be a red synthetic within a housing close to the blade that could transfer power through it. The rear of the handle would have a force activated door which inside you would place a crystal for any other lightsaber. Close the door and slide the handle to the smallest length setting. The crystal you inserted would be slowly drained of its power and into a circuit which would feed its power into the original crystal. Each crystal would increase the power of the other and would become the most powerful blade in the galaxy. I don't think many Jedi would be willing to use a blade such as this.
     
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