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SPECULATION Live Action Thrawn

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Trevor, Jan 25, 2022.

  1. Trevor

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    So we have Thrawn that is now canon...via the animated series Rebels.

    Somewhat like Boba Fett, I always felt that Thrawn was just a plotline instrument, and even an incidental character, even though Thrawn had his own books, and when he was brought into the canon fold in Rebels, I just shook my head that they'd dusted him off instead of someone like Mara Jade that actually had a major (even blood) attachment to the core characters.

    Being a devout Mara fan, I was relatively saddened that they chose Thrawn to add to the in-universe, but being the accepting guy, I'll see how this plays out.

    Knowing and understanding that the animated series are canon and tie directly to our known movie canon, and seeing that pulling Thrawn off of the shelf MUST (in my mind) have had a bigger reason than just a "needed character" in the animated Rebels, because they could've conjured up anyone for that....so I figure that there must be a bigger plan, but what is it....and where...and when??
     
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    I'd put money on him debuting here... it seems the most obvious choice given the conclusion to the Rebels series and the fact that a live-action Sabine Wren has been cast too.

    In saying this, I've probably cursed it though and he'll appear in something else :D
     
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    Seconding @Lazarus Dei here. It's probably going to be in the Ahsoka show.

    I can definitely see that! Even before reading the books last year, I always had a slightly deeper connection to Thrawn than Boba Fett. I didn't feel like they did him justice in Rebels and reading the original Thrawn Trilogy only deepened that feeling. That aside, I definitely feel your annoyance at Mara Jade's neglect. It was a darn shame, and one that looks very hard to fix. (Not impossible, just very hard, especially since they decided to break up the only official couple in the OT.)
     
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    I second that feeling. The right actor with a great live-action director with the right lighting and special effects can create a really strong villian with this character. Thrawn can become for Star Wars what Thanos became for Marvel.

    She's too good of a character to stay absent forever. My dream casting is Karen Gillan of Jumanji and GOTG fame.
     
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    I always felt that Thanos already has his Star Wars equivalent in Darth Vader (in the sense that Thanos elicited the same shock and fear from audiences with the Snap that Vader did with the "I am your father," as well as being a villain that was absolutely no joke when onscreen) but I'd definitely like to see Star Wars try!

    Karen Gillian would kill the role! She's such an underrated actress despite her fame.
    All of that said, Mara Jade's importance seems to be tied to Luke Skywalker. She started out as his bitter enemy, then became his ally, then apprentice, then lover, then wife and mother to his child. The ST stripped that family aspect away from Luke - he has no children, no love, no real community outside what we know will fail. To echo Kylo's sentiment about Rey's heritage in TLJ, Mara Jade has no real place in the story, not anymore. At most all I can see us getting is a nice little homage, such as Starkiller base (which to JJ was probably more of an homage to Luke Starkiller than Galen Marek "Starkiller")
    Or maybe they'll introduce her as Ezra's love interest, or something like that, and keep her tied into the story but without her attachment to Luke. Who knows?
     
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    Thrawn served the Empire to save the Chiss from alien invasion.
     
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    Sabine Wren is my hope still for that role in Ezra's life.
     
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    Honestly, I'm the same. Although I wouldn't be surprised if LF didn't go that route, however. But where else would Mara Jade fit? What is her purpose outside of her connection to Luke and the Skywalkers? If she's built up from the ground with a different backstory and future, is she really even Mara Jade anymore?
     
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    No she is not, IMO. If Ahsoka brings back Talon Karrade or Jorj Car'das, maybe we get a Mara-like character, though I'm not getting my hopes up.
     
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    Sadly, you're right....aside from her memory as part of the Skywalker family, she's really been systematically erased, and it's so, SO sad to me.

    The only thing that she could be rooted and reborn from, is the fact that she was the Emperors Hand, and could potentially show up as an adversary (as she originally did) and then potentially turn and be an ally.

    Idk, there's apparently so much content in the works that it actually might already be on the drawing board, and yes, I'm biased to Mara, especially when Thrawn showed up and I asked out loud:

    "THRAWN?!? WHY HIM?!?"

    Like I said before, I'll honestly take what I can get, especially after "The Great Canon Reset", and who knows, maybe Thrawn will be as good as what I've seen from Fett so far...
     
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    For what it's worth, I'd MUCH rather have Shira Brie as a live-action Luke's love-interest character, even without eventually getting Lumiya, than Mara Jade. Admittedly, I haven't read that many MJ-related books (Thrawn Trilogy as comcis and Hand of Thrawn duology being the major two series), but her character didn't interest me at all, but the Brie story was fantastic! Oh well, to each their own.
     
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    I just know that they will bring Thrawn in Ahsoka only to kill him. I am afraid that they will completely sideline Timothy Zahn's Thrawn in order to aggrandize Ahsoka, make him just another villain and erase him. Filoni already gave Ahsoka Marg Sabl.

    I would like to see Thrawn and Ezra surviving the Wild Space/Unknown Regions together, having to cooperate learning that neither of them is as simple as they thought. But, alas, we have to have a 'Big Bad' and they cannot live. God forbid we give Star Wars a bit of complexity. Yes, Star Wars is for children and, yes, even children can handle that.

    Re: Mara Jade - I have no particular feelings, I am a 'new Thrawn' fan, but apparently George Lucas hated her and Lucasfilm (Filoni in particular) like to follow his lead, so I think there will be no version of Mara anywhere.
     
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    I think it's pretty much a given that he'll feature heavily in Ahsoka, though I suppose it's possible he might cameo before that.

    Which is... weird. Like, I get that Thrawn works well as an almost Sherlock/Moriarty (depending on whether he's the protagonist or the antagonist) but as a villain I think he's best as a military tactician. I think he'd be much more interesting as an antagonist to Leia, Hera, Poe, Bo Katan... someone who actually commands troops. Like, I can't really imagine a fight between Ahsoka and Thrawn, for instance, even though he's a prodigious fighter for a non-Force sensitive.

    He worked okay for thwarting the Scooby Gang in Rebels, but this feels different. I'm open to it, but I'm cautiously skeptical.
     
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    Lucasfilm has now published 6 Thrawn books in new canon and they've been among the best sellers. There's just no way they're going to completely ignore all the backstory and simply make him an evil villain to kill off. I'm sure he's be introduced as evil and we'll find out his true motives are for the "greater good." Really for Ahsoka to work they need to go to the unknown regions and explore that area. That would help escape the baggage of having to deal with the New Republic timeline.
     
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    See, I always likened Thrawn to another version of GM Takin, and yes I get that he's a great military tactician, but I'd personally leave him at that...an antagonist to the core group that popped up incidentally, as they were always to avoid him.

    I do believe that as @LadyMusashi said above, that Ahsoka will likely dispatch him, and that'll be it, but not after some hunting, ANDWE ALL need to know what happened to Ezra before she gives him the blade...
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 26, 2022, Original Post Date: Jan 26, 2022 ---
    Well, there IS that...
     
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    Yeah, I think we're probably on the same page-ish. Like, wouldn't it be weird if Luke's nemesis in the entire OT was Tarkin, rather than Palpatine or Vader? It just... wouldn't work as well.

    Or similarly, if Rey and Hux were enemies, and Poe and Kylo Ren were always matched up. I mean, you don't always have to match up archetypes, but sometimes it just works a lot better.
     
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    I really, really hope that you are right and I am wrong. But, I keep my expectations really, really low...

    I also hope that it is true that Lars Mikkelsen is cast as Thrawn. You just need to paint him blue, he already looks like an alien ( :D ), and his voice is perfect.
     
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    One of the comments I've heard both Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni say in the "making of" episodes and in interviews is the importance of 'respecting the characters' that fans have developed such an emotional investment in over the years. Obviously, the implication harkens back to TLJ's depiction of Luke Skywalker, but it's true of villains like Thrawn too.

    The mere thought of a live action Lars Mikkelsen as Thrawn brings chills.
     
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