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SPECULATION Luke can't remember who he is...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by fizzgig, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. fizzgig

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    Didnt see a previous thread about this, excuse me if it has been brought up before.

    Just watched the interview with Mark about Jake Lloyd. At the very end, Mark says that because of his short term memory, he can't remember what The Last Jedi is about. I know it was a joke...but still, it got me to thinking.

    Evidence:
    1) off the cuff comment from Mark about memory loss.
    2) JJ and Kathys comments when starting the sequel trilogy...the enticing question to JJ was "WHO is Luke Skywalker".
    3) Bloodline book...it is stated there was an electrical interference when Leia lost Luke's signal.
    4) the look at the end of TFA is a "who the heck are you" look.

    Just speculation, but still would be an interesting plot point.
     
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    In one of the excerpts of the TFA script there are key descriptors about Luke which might suggest against such a forgetting:

    he is portrayed as being "tortured," and it is added he "does not need to ask her who she is" or "what she is doing [there]."

    He is also said to be "conflicted" at what he sees.

    This would, to me, strongly suggest he has rather strong memories at that point.

    Arguably that feeling could be amplified by his sensing of the loss of Han and a good part of the New Republic.

    I'm hopeful he does remember, because getting him to remember would, just from a storytelling perspective, add potentially unnecessary preliminary exposition to a movie where much of the story concerning Rey, Snoke, Ben, and everything between needs to be accounted for, up to a certain satisfying extent.

    And, I also believe remembrance can one of his key strengths going into VIII, namely remembering his wrongs, the prior mistakes of the Jedi, the fall of Ben, and so on.

    It is from that unique experiential memory and perspective that he (and only he) can offer such insight and wisdom the galaxy desperately needs at the end of VII.
     
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    Agreed, but what if he lost it while on Ach-to?
    Thus the saber, and in tandem, Rey (who luckily has the ability to interact with the force through touch) are able to restore that memory?

    What if his intention wasn't to just be a hermit in isolation? He's just lost sitting on an island with a bunch of pet birds.

    :confused:
     
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    are you talking about amnesia because how would a trained jedi get that unless they were severely injured...I could see him getting pTSD though
     
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    Something happened to him, which is why I brought up the circumstantial evidence of the interference when Leia lost him.
     
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    Maybe he did have dialogue in TFA and couldn't remember his lines? ;)
     
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    With scheduling they probably told him he was wrapped after he tenth take
    ;)
     
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    Luke never forgets.
     
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    Is this canon?!?!
    :p
     
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    Never read any canon stories of him being so.
     
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    I think there is one thing Luke would like to forget from ESB concerning a smooch with a certain sibling..... :eek:
     
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    I can see where you'd get this idea, but yeah, I don't see it happening. You took an off the cuff remark and ran with it. Your first point, okay. Sure, I can see why you'd wonder, but then you make a HUGE leap with point number 2. That is a question I'd expect ANY writer to ask when taking over a project after what, a 30 year absence? Who are these characters? Since Luke is central to it, who is he?

    It's definitely fun to speculate, but yeah, Having Luke not remember who he is? No.
     
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    Again, I'm not saying he forgot, I'm speculating he might have had a mind wipe of some sort.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 14, 2017, Original Post Date: Feb 14, 2017 ---
    Dang man, did I offend you in some way?
    I'm sorry?
     
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    Force drained by Snoke.
     
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    Also, I don't know that #2 is actually such a large stretch. TFA crawl states "where" is Luke. To ask WHO is interesting to me, since we have so much background on him already. I don't think Luke's character changes.
     
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    Hmm, ‘Force-nesia’. I just wanted to type that out to see if I like it . . . I don’t . Although, could also be pronounced ‘for sneeze ya’. He is on a planet named "Ahch-to" after all. Coincidence?
     
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    i still don't get the idea of Force draining someone, nor do i think it'll come into play. but that's probably another discussion for another thread...

    @fizzgig i could see there maybe being an intro sort of moment where Luke doesn't recall some things. sorta like Yoda acting like he's not a Jedi, or like when Gandalf comes back in Two Towers and has a wacky memory on some things.
     
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    Maybe he has to relearn how to talk. The mouth is a muscle (well, several). 'Use it or lose it' as they say. I imagine that being a real treat to watch.
     
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    I don't know about force draining either, that seems weird. But I could see some sort of physical something happening that resets his mind. Then, ALL he would have left is the force to guide him. None of the teachings. Essentially it would be like being "born again". A restart.
     
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    Or he has just become a crazy old hermit like Old Ben.
    Lonely for a long time on a long lost planet. But who knows, perhaps he found some funny mushrooms every know and then :D
     
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