SPOILER Luke SPOILER (Also Ridley, Driver, Lupita, & MvS)

If there is a cyborg... Who is lost... And seeks answers/revenge... Kinda reminds me of Battle Angel Alita.

 

Seems like a cool concept, but one that I feel would be a hard one to flesh out accurately in a Star Wars type movie. Again, I find the idea of Luke being extremely powerful - too powerful for his own liking, even - to be a cool idea. When it comes down to constructing his own environment and controlling force drones across the galaxy, though, it seems to be taking a bit too far for my own personal liking.

I have faith in JJ, though. If this is the direction they intend to take Luke's character, and this new trilogy, I'm sure it will turn out great.

 

What if the world he controls is a fantasy... I thought about this while I was running to the store to get ciggies...

What if the Luke was taken captive... and never escaped? He is still captive... like in the bacta tank... and he is in this constant dreamlike state. He is reaching out and has been able to take control of the Warlord drone, which is becoming more Luke-like every day... but... he is looking for... himself

The whole galaxy is looking for Luke... even Luke is looking for Luke...

 

I think you might be on to something. I say this because again JJ likes to flip roles. In Jedi we have Luke saving Han. In IV we have Luke saving Leia. In empire Luke attempts to save his friends. Nobody ever saves Luke.

It makes sense then that Kira convinces Han to attempt to save Luke. I do not believe Han will die in this film. I do believe that Han will be the one to save luke from whatever it is he needs saving from. Given everything we have heard it also makes sense that Luke might be prisoner on Morabund (not sure how its acutally spelled.)

Luke is saved, but someone is not. Again the journey is more interesting if Chewie or Leia die first.

 

That is a fantastic idea. I'm just not sure it's very Star Wars. Would I have bought into that at 7 years old, the way I did the gold robot and the space monkey? I like it a lot, but we're edging into Matrix territory with that one I think.

 

I would disagree that no one saves Luke. In ANH, Han comes to assist Luke in the end; in ESB, Han saves Luke from freezing to death and Leia, Lando and Chewie also save Luke in ESB. Luke gets saved quite a bit.

 

I think ultimately, Vader saves Luke, too.

 

I think that last one is about iron man, no?

I think if you accept Makings new info, you have to let go of the batman idea. I was just coming around to it, too.

But this new Making post seems just as interesting and probably more fitting.

And are we sure grave robber and war lord are still 2 seperate characters anyway?

 

"The power to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the force."

So what the hootin' heck could it be that Luke did? The things we've heard discussed as immense force abilities both came from Sidious: the power to prevent those you love from dying and the ability to influence midi-chlorians to create life.
Has Luke bought Anakin back? Is the actor playing the cyborg that's going to blow us all away Hayden? I hope not, because I'm still holding out for Eric Idle....

 

Anyone want to fill me in on what the Warlord thing is? No clue where this came from.

 

I sympathise with that point of view, Law. But I think this is Luke's 40 days in the wilderness chapter. Anyone know that story well enough to comment on whether or not there are any rumoured Ep VII elements that parallel that story?

 

He made that comment right after he made the comment about all powerful Jedi and what could they do... so I took it as an analogy... could be totally off base, though

I think Grave Robber was an earlier conceptional piece as the same character as Warlord

As for Luke as a hermit after an incident... I agree with those who think the most powerful person in the galaxy isn't just sitting around counting flowers on the wall...remote, maybe... but remote and doing what? Being insane?

 

What does #ADR mean? Is he talking about Adam Driver?

 

"Alternative Dispute Resolution"

Seems it was referring to Iron Man, just interesting placement, and potentially talking about one movie made him think of the other movie... I edited the original post to remove the reference

 

I read over the last few posts & found them entertaining to say the least.
I agree with a few & take issue with some.
Here are a few remarks(in no specific order or signifigence):
1) I highly doubt EP7 will have any "time-travel" elements. People will attack JJ or George Lucas in the street if they go that cheap or cheesey route. There MAY be a scene or two of "remote viewing" or future events/fore-shadowing. That's a known trait of Jedi & those with deep Force connections to "look into the future". These premonitions or images may be part of what drives Skywalker mad(deranged).
2) From what has been posted online & discussed(rumors & content NOT confirmed), it's possible Luke, in the first act of EP7 or maybe earlier(a few years after the rebel Endor moon battle) has a "Carrie" type moment in a critical incident(major event) that causes him to have a psychotic break or "crack up".
Carrie, for the young forum members was a popular Steven King horror novel & later film(s) about a teen girl who wigs out & destroys things/kills people with telepathic powers.
Luke, may or may not be able to prevent a huge disaster then the trauma(maybe death of Leia or other main characters) makes him become a recluse or MIA for decades. Skywalker may be super strong with the Force & Jedi powers but can't yet contain or control them. The young actors may pull him out but then in the climax see him do another "Carrie" type scene(this time for good OR evil).
3) I agree that flashbacks or excessive dialogue scenes would be a cop-out but if Kasdian & JJ want to cram all the story into a film 2.5hr long(not 4 hours or 5 hours) they may need to add a brief scene or 2.
4) I think one of the big mistakes early on in TPM(PT) was the way Lucas/ILM introduced new characters and threw them directly into big action scenes. It was like "huh? Who? What?". EP7 should start slow then build into the action pieces. The fans & new audience will care more and it will be more relateable.

 

Cool. Do you know what this means:

"Exactly. Luke comes to see that they've just traded one shackle for another. Luke as an Anarchist, love that, won't happen.#Lucas"

What is shackled? The Alliance?

 

I'd add that from what I've read & seen the new "chrome troopers" or maybe the "shadow troopers" will have limited force/dark side abilities much like the Empirors Imperial Guard(Royal Guard). The novels & EU stories said they could use the force too but not like a fully trained Jedi.
I don't think these characters are fakes or bluffs either.
I wouldn't see toys or Star Wars merchandise being created for fake characters or bogus rumors.
This costs a lot of $$$ and 1000s of employees/businesses are involved worldwide.

 

From the thread, and reading all the posts, what I gathered is that the Republic and the Empire may not be all that dissimilar... and Luke may not be all that happy about the direction they are taking.

We had a recent report that the chromies are with the Warlord... whoever that happens to wind up being

 

nice post

what if JJ were to start ep7 the same way he started the Trek re-boot? a scene set during the 30 year gap.. then a pop forward to current day? technically not a flashback (yes i'm picking at the knits lol)

 

I agree with post #280. It "sounds" like JJ's MO.
I think Lucas & Kasdian will keep EP7 grounded & make Disney(and the fans) happy.
As posted before, Arnt may have been cut due to his script being too dark or having a "all is lost" downturn that was too traumatic or violent.