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RUMOR Luke's Fate?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Qui-GON29, Sep 25, 2014.

  1. Qui-GON29

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    I know I've read somewhere (cannot remember where or when exactly, someone might help me out) some rumours about Luke having to take a difficult decision to save the gang on Ep VII.
    Something like turning to the dark side (I recall one rumour of a Star Wars community forum post stating that he "saves the day at the end, but in a bad way. He has changed." It was something along those lines). Other post (in this forum) says that he "kills the new Emperor and BECOMES an Emperor himself".
    Since then, I've been wondering about this, and I think it would be terrible for me as a fan to see Luke go wrong (even if he does it for the good reasons, ala Dark Empire). Don't get me wrong, maybe it turns out to be great from a story point of view, and I welcome that, of course. Still, it would be really hard to witness such a twist in the saga. :eek:

    I want to know your thoughts, fellow Cantina users. Do you see this as possible for the ST? What would you think if something like this happens on Ep. VII? Would you rather see him die? Remain as the ultimate Master Jedi of all times? Or what else?


    P.S.: I apologise for not addressing the aforementioned sources of these rumours (the people who posted these things, I mean). I'll be really grateful if someone improves my post by providing said information. :)
     
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    It seems to have originated from a poster on 4chan calling itself "Mizzlewump" on that said on March 31st that
    "Luke saves the day at the end, but in a bad way; he has changed".

    Also one of the people that claimed to be connected in some fashion to the production (but didn't fashion themselves a direct insider) that I monitored for months gave a coy response to the idea with a bunch of smiley face emoticons. It's vague but it makes me wonder in an annoying way. There's one other person out there on twitter claiming to know part of the plot that was saying something similar on September 9. I don't know whether or not to give them any credence because they could just be regurgitating what was already online. So I'm not jumping to conclusions.

    I don't care for it personally. Luke, Han, and Leia shouldn't be the focus of the movie or the ST. It should be the new generation. Not just the trio of young leads, but I want to see Driver and/or some other newcomers as villains. Not one of the old guard.
     
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    I do not think he turns maybe he becomes a darker Jedi who made a bad call or something of that nature but become a Sith I will stick my neck out and say that will never happen.
     
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    It could be interesting if the rumour that Luke is hiding on Dagobah, because some kind of dark side entity is trying to influence him is true.

    Luke being all alone, then forced out of hiding because his friends is once again in danger, trying to make all the good decisions, but ends up making the wrong decisions.

    Lucas has not said much about the sequels, one of the few things he has said is: "it will be about moral & philosofical questions, about distinguishing right from wrong"

    So if Luke has trouble distinguishing right from wrong because the dark side clouds everything & the new threat is trying to trick him, that could be a interesting plot twist, Luke ending up doing wrong, when he is trying to the right thing
     
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    Is it possible that we are misinterpreting that Luke spoiler. Or should I say...Possible it is that misinterpreting the spoiler we are. (yoda)

    My thought was that perhaps Luke has to sacrifice his friends to save the day, resulting in the change in him. Echoing this exchange from ESB.
    Luke: And sacrifice Han and Leia?

    Yoda: If you honor what they fight for? Yes.

    Only this time, Luke makes the choice Yoda wanted him to make. Putting the good of the galaxy ahead of his attachment to his friends. That could be the thing that "changes him".
     
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    interesting angle :) Luke now being mature enough to understand he must put the fate of the galaxy before his personal attachments & that decision ending up changing him.
     
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    I like to think that Yoda already knew the decision he was going to make. Having Luke go down the "dark path" or being confused and making wrong decisions isn't Luke, that's an updated Anakin. His faith in himself and his friends was never his downfall, it was his strength.
     
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    I don’t think faith in his friends was a weakness, but his attachment and rush to save them on Bespin was an incorrect choice in Yoda’s eyes. He clearly feels in RotJ that Luke rushed to face Vader before he was complete with his training which is why he was unable to accept and defeat Vader in the confrontation in Cloud City. A choice that, in the end, still resulted in the loss of Han and a hand.

    The Luke of RotJ that took the slow approach to rescuing Han from Jabba was the proper Jedi Luke. The one that didn’t let his attachments cloud his judgment. The one that had faith in his friends to do their part and didn’t feel it necessary to rush in and save the galaxy all by himself.

    I whole heartedly think that we are supposed to believe that Luke’s decision to leave Dagobah is a mistake. The down ending of ESB is the penalty Luke pays for his rashness and attachment. But, he learns wisdom through that choice and it ends up being the true end to his training. That wisdom allows him to return to Tattoine, save his friend, and then confront Vader and the Emperor and truly become a Jedi.
     
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    I absolutely agree with you on that one. Maybe I should have put more into my original thought. Kind of what I was getting at is that between ESB and ROTJ you can see the maturity that he as gained and the proper Jedi he is. Just seems like people are trying to say that he's going to revert way back to being scared of himself and "what he could become". I don't buy it. That wouldn't be a logical progression of Luke's character.
     
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    I believe that Luke is going to be killed off in the same way that Dumbledore was in Harry Potter, someone he believes he can trust will stab him in the back in episode 8.. Leading a character to avenge him in episode 9.
     
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    Please rest assured that Luke will not go evil in that it would ruin the entire purpose of the Original Trilogy.
     
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    I think I am now pretty convinced Luke Skywalker (having completed his first character's arc to become a Jedi Knight in the OT)... Starts a second arc, this time as a Jedi Master.

    Failed first (his academy having been destroyed by his fault?)
    Having a second chance by the end of the movie.
     
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    Luke's fate is his own to decide.
     
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    Would that not damage the end of RotJ and weaken the right decisions that Luke made during his meeting with Darth Vader and the Emperor? (just asking)
    A very good and valid idea, I like it. (could be in the movie or should be)
    Makes sense, thought of it myself, it would be a plausible subplot for Luke in the ST.
     
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    I see Luke as the Gary Cooper sheriff character in the classic High Noon.
    He might have been in a terrible fight or had catastrophic losses in the post ROTJ/Aftermath era. This may be why the General character & Phasma hate his guts.
    Luke might be in exile(I think Yavin 4 not Dagobagh) but in the 3rd act he will rise up, The Force Awakens & with force ghost Yoda; Luke will square off with a few villians. I don't think Luke dies but I doubt he will live past EP8.

    I'm curious to learn David Arnst(check spelling) screenplay since JJ & Larry Kasdan threw it out & started all over.
     
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    Luke will have face his demons.
     
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    Do you think something bad could happen to more than 1 of the old 3? Harrison Ford is 72. Surely he can't go on forever with this. His charracter has to die sometime not in the distant future. I also think Carrie Fisher will get the smallest role of the 3 coz she just looks out of place now. I think if something bad happens to 1 of the 3 it's just Han Solo. Think it's a bit too farfetched that Luke, the hero of the galaxy, would turn to the dark side or even die.
     
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    The death of one of the big three would be shocking but it is expected to boast the rest of the trilogy, Han & Chewie are favorite to go, it will leave Luke & Leia at a stalemate going into episode 8 were one will doubt the other leading another expected lightsaber duel, nothing lasts forever family choices decide their legacy the Skywalker family name's path is being written.
     
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    i heard he found a nice little cabin on a remote island, then rey had to come over for a visit and mess everything up
    #grumpyuncleluke ;)
     
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    Hey, if enough of these characters die, maybe Finn and Rey can build a Jedi Academy and they force ghosts can all come back and play a couple of innings, I mean spar a little ;)
     
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