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SPOILER Luke's location during the "I have it" scene with Artoo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, Apr 28, 2015.

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    This is what I believe. No flashback. A friends burial.
     
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    If you say so.
     
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    The lack of other actors means nothing, i think. Luke cremate vader's body without anybody else arround, of course other actors are at the same place but not in that specific take. Anyways, only Luke have real feelings for vader. But there are many possibilities: 1- the other characters are on the falcon after an epic farewell, and that is a final moment of the scene where only luke and R2 appears and talk for some minutes, so there's no need for other actors. 2 - Maybe Luke find han's dead body ALONE (with R2), moments after that suposed leaked plot line when han appears for a last time and our main characters are running away from the bad guys... and we think many others possibilities. People believe about MSW beeing right about 100% of things it reported, as if everything is LITERAL. But remeber that whe didn't have a confirmation about any hand with a lightsaber in space, BUT we already know the saber is in the movie.
     
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    Maybe it's just my wish....not every rumor I read I like...flashback is one of it. Besides, if there is flashback, or vision of the past, my guess is that it is not easy to show, it needs focus and the Force, and it will show just the super important images, just few seconds, in the was Anakin saw Padme, and Luke with R2 doesn' t seem to fit to the concept....in other words - it is luxury to spend the Force power to show such unimportant image. I'm still not convinced - why the images? Why the voice, just to tell the story, without the vision, is not enough? Because of the audience? Obi-Wan didn' t need a vision or flashback to tell Luke the story of the past...I'm sorry, I don' t need the flashback to understand the story, I don' t need to know everything....thus I believe Luke and R2 are in no flashback.....I believe there are scenes Jason Ward didn't discovered
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    This is my first contact with Star Wars. We came to the theather and this is what I saw. The burial. No one told us it' s not over yet, we bought the tickets and went inside......didn' t ruin the movie for me anyway.
     
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    Wow first contact with star wars well you picked a great moment to enjoy star wars. I'm glad the saga has continued even though GL said future plots would never make it to the big screen, glad he saw the light.
     
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    Lukes academy was on Jakku near , or in MvS village until massacre 10 years ago . There was no fancy temple like the academy's of old. That is why the lone survivor Rey is living there and that is why MvS recognises Lukes saber and contacts Leia.

    Boom!! Kryptic Mind does it again!!
     
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    Be really odd if all his dialogue was treated this way. No reason it would be, but it is a cool effect....

    The lack of other actors is significant, imo. It means Luke is the focus of that scene, which means he is more significant than the "single scene" rumours suggest. I had wondered if this is Luke moments before Rey arrives: Luke is preparing for her arrival at the end of the movie but doesn't know what to expect. So, we see Rey land at "Skellig" and alight her craft, begin the ascent to Luke's sanctuary; cut to Luke, who touches R2 in a "she's here, prepare yourself" gesture, then Rey strides into the clearing (where the fire is burning) and says something like, "I am ready, Master."

    I also considered if there are other characters in that scene and JJ is deliberately toying with us by not showing them--because they haven't been added yet. If Yoda or Obi-Wan make an appearance--and I hope one of them does (I think one of them, most likely Yoda, has to)--then Luke could have just finished speaking to them at this point. So, extend the sequence:
    • Rey comes out of hypersace and prepares to land
    • Luke is on the planet, in commune with his former master; he is told the future is clouded and Rey's destiny is in her own hands
    • Rey lands at "Skellig" and alights her craft, begins the ascent to Luke's sanctuary
    • The force ghost tells Luke Rey will either join him, or challenge him; Luke senses she is close, the force ghost fades; Luke touches R2 in a "she's here, prepare yourself" gesture
    • Rey strides into the clearing (where the fire is burning) and says something like, "I am ready, Master"
    Just as likely as any other speculation at this point, but my point is: if it's not a flashback witnessed remotely (and I personally don't think it is), it will probably lead into an encounter with one of the main cast--because this isn't Luke's movie, he isn't the focus and I don't think scenes will linger on his point-of-view/experience....
     
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    this looks like a typical star wars funeral scene to me.. but who do the burn?


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    So many rumours suggest Luke will only appear at the end of TFA on the wherever the Skellig set is based and maybe in a flashback.

    My understanding is that the village burning isn't a flashback and if that is the case then does Luke turn up afterwards and survey the carnage with R2. The terrain seems to match in the images below along with the burning cinders in the wind.
     

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    Oops I had a senior moment eh.

    These threads move so quickly, well remembered.
     
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    It might not be Luke, there is speculation that Finn gets injured dueling Kylo (some think he loses a hand)
    we also believe he is at the sacking of the village at the start of the movie
    could he have returned here at the end in some sort of penance/finding himself way?
    I know the hand sticking out is white, but it could be someone crouched down beside the hooded figure giving direction obscured by R2 and the cloak. (or JJ knowing this would be seen trolling us *shakes fist* Abrams)
     
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    Thing is that scene seems to convey affection with artoo. Like the two know each other and have a history.

    But Finn probably doesn't know artoo or even interact with him that much in TFA.
     
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    I agree, but it's fun to speculate on what we do know so far.

    the scene could also convey regret
     
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    If it's a flashback he's on Devaron. Check out the "Weapon of a Jedi" video on YouTube. It has the exact same environment: a clay type soil, large rocks, and some sparse trees. It actually looks like Israel -- the non-desert parts.
     
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    I'd love it if he was tracking Rey but the whole premises (it seems) is that he's missing and people want to track him down, which would kind of defeat the object if he's roaming around the galaxy when both good and bad people are after him. I would think he'd be written as so careless.

    What with the rumours out there we only might see him in present times when Rey visits Skellig Michael in the final few minutes, which I was disappointed about initially but IF this is the case I've since made my peace with it.

    I think that scene will be a flashback scene shortly after the Jedi academy has been destroyed, one of which we still don't fully see his appearance.

    2017 is only round the corner after all. Will mean massive hype again for Episode 8, which I'm sure the filmmakers/disney will want.
     
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