SPECULATION Lukes New JEDI Code

No it shouldn't be. I completely disagree, I find it to be a really depressing notion that sends entirely the wrong message:

I think the honour and reward of being a Jedi should be enough for people to accept that they should not have their own family:

"Yeah, except that you should have a crappy personal life and be completely alone while dedicating yourself to this incredibly dogmatic and rigid order, and just getting to do that should be reward enough." Yeah sorry, don't buy that for one single second. ESPECIALLY for a character like Rey, it's completely contrary to her character and it'd be a frankly garbage resolution to her arc imo.

The Dark Side can corrupt you in any number of ways, if anything your loved ones might very well be there to pull you back from the abyss (as Luke did to Anakin, you and I are NEVER going to agree on our interpretations of that). And here's the thing, if you love something, respect THEIR opinion and their POV:

Again - if you love someone, set them free.

This is another cliché in genre fiction that I absolutely LOATHE!! The whole "I'm doing this for you, all on my own. It's for your own good, so you get no say in the matter. Your feelings and opinions don't matter in the slightest." Here's the thing, that's not being "sefless" that's being SELFISH, and also condescending, arrogant, and having no respect for anyone else.

 

Well I think the "if you love someone, set them free." is used more when a certain person realizes they have been no good. Rather than to continue bringing the other partner down they let them go because they truly love them and know there is someone out there better for them than themselves.

 

Yeah, I guess. But scale is kinda important. One guy thinking his soul is in jeopardy because he

Spoiler: mild sexual reference

knocked one out in the afternoon

isn't really going to cause the same impact as a billion people being caught up in a war created by a Sith.

 

hahaha ~ fair enough then.
like i said: i totally agree Luke himself needs to be better than any kind of devotion to anything other than the Force.
but i do think he could still raise "tiers" (for lack of a better word) of Jedi to help the galaxy maintain its balance ~ and that wouldn't be a bad thing.
those hierarchies with varying levels of asceticism exist in the Church as well.

 

They're not dedicating themselves to the Order. They are dedicating themselves to bringing peace to the galaxy. It's the ultimate act of altruism - something that brings possibly the greatest satisfaction to people. I don't think Rey needs to find a husband and have children to find her place. Regardless of being allowed to have a family or not, a Jedi's life is hard and you're not exactly going to be able to dedicate the time to your partner and kids that you should. Having a family and being a Jedi is likely a selfish decision.

Like Padme did with Anakin?
Of course they can be pulled back by loved ones. I am not disputing that. In fact I have encouraged the idea of Jedi students having parents and not being taken away like the old days. But attachment is dangerous. It's the side of love that must be avoided as it is the greedy side.

Set them free - as in do what is right by them. Not try and control them and be possessive of them for your own good.
In loving them unconditionally and not being possessive you are setting them free.
And like I say, if you are in love with someone and you want to be together - then do that. Just leave the Jedi Order.

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What like, lower level Jedi who can marry and have kids but aren't privy to certain Force secrets?
One problem with that is if their families do make them get selfish they then might seek more power so they can save them and turn to the Dark Side for that power...

I dunno. I reckon there would be plenty of people out there willing to give up the idea of a family to be a Jedi. Those that don't want to do that don't have to. Apart from Luke.

Sorry Luke.

 

maybe less a matter of privilege than degree of responsibility?

absolutely there is always risk. but even Luke, last Jedi master (and the hope of the galaxy), he still has family that still puts him at risk.
so there we are.

 

Indeed. Couldn't be helped with Luke though...and uh...where is he now?

 

perxactly: he's cryin' in his beer because something got colossally screwed up with his nephew.

i totally give you that, but having a sister and consequently a nephew wasn't really his fault (and all Jedi will have to come from somewhere, right?). so having extended family is already kinda unavoidable unless you are an orphan.
though it's reason 187 why i'm pretty dang sure he doesn't have a daughter ~ hahaha