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Main Episodes Relying on Spin-Off Films is Cheating

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by AFN, Jan 6, 2016.

  1. AFN

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    I've come across many theories and speculations regarding where the story will go in the next two Episodes, and some of them lean heavily on further speculation derived from the upcoming Rogue One spinoff. I personally think using an outside film to explain plot points would be a weak move by the franchise. Rogue One should be a side curiosity and a bit of fun, not integral to the main story. If the franchise goes down this road, it sets a messy precedent; instead of executing a successful and engaging story within the parameters of the serial format, important details get tucked away in ancillary creations? The original films didn't need side projects to do their work for them. Ancillary material is fun and allows a 'what if' scenario if you are interested in spending more time with certain characters, but a regular moviegoer shouldn't need to do this in order to understand the main plot line. And if the belief is that Disney is trying to make the spin-offs "more important" by "connecting" them to the Episodes, again, it's a cheap move. The main episodes should be able to stand on their own.
     
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    I don't think you have much to worry about. Everything you've heard at this point is speculation and not truth. I'd be shocked if there were NOT connections between the movies. However, each movie should stand on their own.
     
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    I'm sure there will be characters and/or other concepts presented in the spinoffs that would relate to things in the main films, but I haven't seen anyone in any official capacity stating that there would be any real connection or any necessity to see the spinoffs in order to enjoy the main films.

    I must warn you -- we tend to get pretty into it with rumors and speculation. Why, this website itself almost erupted into a civil war over a year ago because of a seemingly credible rumor that Luke was going to be a half-cyborg evil villain in TFA. :D
     
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    I'm pretty certain the connections between Rogue One and the ST will be minimal and have not much effect on the overall plot.

    Things such as who Lor San Tekka (who I'm certain is Mads Mikkelsen's character in Rogue One) isn't a massive important part of the story of TFA, but it will add something, in the same way reading the books or watching the TV shows does.
     
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    Indeed. Even if the character does show up and have a prominent role in Rogue One, all you need is the simple dialogue at the beginning of TFA to realize "ok, so he knows about Luke and the Jedi, and he and Kylo Ren know each other pretty well." All you need to keep enjoying the film.
     
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    AFN -I agree that the all movies (spinoff or episodes) should be able to stand entirely alone, however to me, having "connective tissue" in characters, events, etc. only enhances the overall tapestry of the Star Wars universe. Example - I found that watching all of the Clone Wars series, especially the last season, enhanced ROTS by showing Anakin's growing skepticism with the Jedi way etc. It adds depth to the story and, as a result, makes ROTS a stronger, more impactful movie. Its not necessary to have it, but it enriches the story nonetheless. You are correct that the originals did not need ancillary material to make them work, but how many of us loved the Expanded Universe material (may it rest in peace) that gave so much history and depth to the originals and prequels. Truth is, Rogue One itself is completely unnecessary to make ANH work, but knowing the story of how the Death Star plans were obtained by the Rebellion will (hopefully) enrich the overall story in a similar way.

    If LFL were to truly make watching Spinoffs like Rogue One necessary to understand Eps VIII and IX, I would be concerned. But I haven't heard anything yet that leads me to believe that they would go that way. Even that way they made Ep VII points to this. It can be watched and enjoyed by people who have never even seen a Star Wars movie at all. The OT just enhances it.

    Just my 2 cents.....-Gorth
     
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    Hmmm... I'd say The Clone Wars is more 'necessary' than both The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones! ;)
     
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    Good point!
     
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    IF they find some way to tie some plot points into the saga films, I think that would be genius. For example, if Mads Mikkelson's character in Rogue One turns out to be Lor San Tekka, that would be neat. It doesn't affect the saga story much at all, and would make sense in the overall story. I don't see this happening for all of the films to come.. now that The Mouse owns Star Wars, there will probably be one film per year.. at the LEAST. we'll see...
     
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    The sheer time difference makes it hard to believe any anthology prior to maybe the third film could have any impact on the ST.
    That said, I don't see what the bugaboo is over this concept. Sure beats reading a book.
    ~5:47
     
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    If Mikkelson is a younger LST it doesn't make viewing R1 essential to understand TFA. As far as the plot for TFA goes, it doesn't matter who LST is. All that matters is that he has the information that is of use to the resistance. Like, for RoTJ to work, we don't need an explanation of what Bothans are.
     
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    Because of how vague that line is in the movie, I always enjoyed imagining that Bothans were a form of bartered currency - like they traded several lambs to the Vikings to get information, who subsequently ate them.
     
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    I think that the standalone films should supplement the main films. You'll get more insight into the mail titles by watching the spinoffs, but if you don't watch the spinoffs, you'll still be able to fully understand the main films.
     
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    Unless ONLY Prequels are going to be made, there's not much to be relied on for the main films that haven't already been made .
     
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