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Main Finn/John Boyega Episode IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by DailyPlunge, Jan 1, 2018.

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Where will Finn be at the start of Episode IX

This poll will close on Dec 21, 2019 at 1:36 AM.
  1. A grunt for the Resistance

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  2. A leader of the Resistance

    51 vote(s)
    63.8%
  3. A spy

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    5.0%
  4. A Jedi student

    8 vote(s)
    10.0%
  1. Jedi MD

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    I will definitely agree that Finn could have been used a whole lot better then he has and I hope that he is used better in The Rise of Skywalker. However I completely disagree that he “has been deliberately “played down” in order for the audience to care about “you know who””.
     
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    Rey's parents get more speculation than Finn and for practical purposes they don't even exist yet people still want to argue that his story is 'great'? I'm dumbfounded as to how people can still come to this conclusion given all the evidence in the movies as well as the happenings in this fandom. It has almost been an entire week without a single post in this thread and not even the most ardent of Finn's story defenders have said anything. But his story is so great, right?
     
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    I mean, the "Rey's Parents in IX" thread hasn't had a post in a week either. And the "Rey / Daisy in IX" thread hasn't had one in 10 days. Just a slow time on the boards, doesn't seem necessary to start decrying at the moment.
     
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    I think there is a distinction between Finn defenders (I am) from those who choose to defend his story arc, this trilogies narrative, Lucas story group in general . I think Finn is great character who they have misused and marginalized for this entire trilogy. Star wars fandom is fickle and weird. I often wonder how Boba Fett was a beloved character and he probably had a total of 5 minutes screen time between the OT and PT.
     
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    I agree and I think we're in the same camp here. I like Finn but I think his story so far leaves more than a lot to be desired.
     
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    Yea he just will kill him off in the middle of the movie
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    I just seen so call Finn's comic book cover he behind Poe looking like a scared coward and Poe looks fierce-full nothing new from stereotype Lucasfilm, Finn just comic relief . It looks like garbage for his arch.

    [​IMG]
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    His heart , his Bravery his skill , is he a warrior a strategist or vanguard , none of these things will make him special because from all star wars movies all the light side soldiers and pilots have this. So this alone will not make Finn special because all resistance fighters have this. As being one of the main characters of this new trilogy he needs something special that distinguish him from the rest of the resistance and characters from the light side that are not the main characters.
     
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    that is not the Age of Resistance comic book.

    this
    is the comic book:

    [​IMG]

    and Finn is still the most courageous character in the ST, hands down.
     
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    Where is the one that @starwarsforever had posted from?
     
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    there's a "choose your own adventure"-style series of books for younger children and that's the latest one.
    there was a Luke & Leia one and an Obi-Wan and Anakin one.
    i haven't read them, so i don't know if they are any good, and Cavan Scott is not an author i've read before.
     
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    WOULD LOOK SOME MUCH BETTER IF HE HAD LUKE'S LIGHTSABER IN HIS HANDS!!
     
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    But instead he has his own signature weapon and doesn't have to rely on an old relic ;P
     
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    He has nothing of his own. Everything he has was given to him by the Resistance. No different than the FO. He didn't have friends when he was with the FO, and he doesn't have any within the Resistance. Friends help you as well as you helping them. Rey and the Resistance haven't been sympathetic to his cause.
    This is a bad stereotype, and shouldn't have a place in Star Wars. This is why we aren't getting anything new or exciting. Boyega's character had the most potential out of the new characters. Ignoring it speaks volumes of some of the problems we have moving forward, and now it's affected the biggest franchise this country has produced. There is a big hole missing in this trilogy, and it's going to be hard to make that up. Too many characters (Luke, Han, Snoke) some fans were interested in have either been killed off or pushed to the back (Finn), so Rey and Kylo can take front and center. This is a SPACE TRILOGY. There is no way we should only be talking about two people that really have no true animosity towards one another. The force is just being used as the excuse.
     
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    He actually did, you also saw his one friend die in TFA:
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    Rey, Poe, Chewie, BB8... What do you call these people then?
    [​IMG]
    #Friends.
     
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    They aren't his friends. What have they done for him? How have they tried to help him? Friendship has to go both ways.
     
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    Poe helped him to excape...
    [​IMG]
    and gave him is identity by calling him Finn.

    BB8 didn't snitch on him and helped him to get away from the FO:
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    Han taught him that nobody's perfect and that you have to accept your mistakes to grow:
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    Rey on the other hand gave him belonging and something to fight for:
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    Chewie carried an injured Finn to the Falcon and therfore saving his life:
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    The Resistance did everything to heal him and gave him a home:
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    And all this was just in the first movie. So, don't tell that they didn't do anything for him.
     
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    I just did.
    Poe didn't help him. They helped each other, and still Poe wanted them to find BB8 first.
    The only thing Han did was tell him sooner or later the truth will come out. That's it.
    Rey didn't provide any belonging. She ran off to save Kylo after Finn almost got killed trying to save her. Rey is far from a friend. The Resistance is alive because of him. The least they could have done was help the person that saved their life. Home is where people love you. There is none of that here.
    If they are friends then these friends need to show concern for what he has gone through, and ask him what he wants. Help him figure that out if they were real friends. They are no better than the FO.
     
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    Finn probably encountered more affection and empathy from his brief encounters with members of the Resistance in those few days than he did with the FO in his entire life.

    Rey and Finn have an obvious connection, and it makes sense that they would - they both have spent their entire lives feeling out of place and searching for belonging. Then they get thrown into this together, and they will forever have that bond because of it -- that doesn't mean that they always have to be at each others side. They have similar morals and ideals, they're not always logical and maybe they think with their heart before their head, but that's a good problem if you ask me.

    They're on different paths but they are still headed towards the same goal. Finn, and his happiness and well-being isn't the goal, and he would never be so selfish as to think that way. He's always going to put others ahead of himself. It's a character trait that should be celebrated, not a flaw that should be attacked.
     
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    Which cause is that?
     
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    Finn was the one who asked Poe for help and not the other way around. Poe didn't hesitate, he didn't judge Finn even though he's a Stromtrooper in that very moment. No, he said: "We're gonna do this."
    And of course Poe would go for BB-8. He's a buddy of him and even more important: he has the key to find Luke Skywalker. Pretty much THE plot of the movie.

    Again, Finn wasn't judged even though Han knew the truth. No, Han gave him a friendly advice. Furthermore he presented him with a blaster. I don't know about you, but I would only give a blaster to a friend, because I trust him.

    Finn himself disagrees with you:
    “You looked at me like no one ever had.” - That sounds like belonging to me.

    Just to play devil's advocate here: How did Finn help the other in the first place?
    - he used Poe to escape and didn't even want to help him in exchange
    - he made BB8 lie about his true intention. Would a true friend lie?
    - he didn't want to stay with Rey, instead he wanted to run away

    See? You can do this the other way around too.
     
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