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Main Finn/John Boyega Episode IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by DailyPlunge, Jan 1, 2018.

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Where will Finn be at the start of Episode IX

This poll will close on Dec 21, 2019 at 1:36 AM.
  1. A grunt for the Resistance

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  2. A leader of the Resistance

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    67.0%
  3. A spy

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    5.3%
  4. A Jedi student

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    Making big assumptions here. Finn's character wouldn't have been any better only if he had been a Jedi. I actually prefer him not to be FS. He doesn't have to rely on the force and this could make him much more special.

    BTW I've never bought Finn being a Jedi in the TFA marketing. I always knew Rey would get the saber.
     
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    It's called common sense, Rey didn't want the light saber, Finn was in danger and unarmed and needed a weapon, Maz knew that Finn will be searching for Rey and it's safe to assume that Finn will give Rey the light saber. I get ST has terrible exposition (one of the main issues I have with ST as a whole) but this is something that doesn't need explanation.
     
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    For me, I wouldn't classify it as false advertising, its just called misdirection. This is just part of movie marketing to not give away to much of the story. Trailers are just bits and pieces of a movie out of context for the viewer because they don't have the big picture yet. Just part of marketing IMO.

    I don't keep up with 100% of all the information for the ST out there and also up to learn something new. I don't remember seeing anything official where FInn was supposed to be force sensitive but was changed, (other than fan speculations/wants prior to release). Where would I find this information.
     
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    There are too many contradictions in this post... Let’s make up our minds: Was Finn not being a Jedi obvious (because “this is America”) or unexpected (because of Disney giving “false expectations”)? Also, why do you want Finn to be a Jedi if you think that the actual Jedi of the ST is useless and can’t even help herself or anyone... Why would you want Finn to be such a rubbish hero? As far as you’re concerned, Finn is the only one with any real strength ( I wouldn’t disagree with you there. Finn has an unshakable commitment to what’s right that is enviable, but somehow you don’t value it as much as you value him “being a Jedi”... or do you? I’m honestly confused.)

    And why would anyone think that Maz giving the saber to Finn had any significance other than her offering an unarmed man a weapon in an emergency...? I don’t think that Maz gave a hoot about the destiny of the legacy saber in that precise moment... She was just doing a nice decent thing for a young, defenceless man. Or am I missing something?
     
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    Star Wars isn't that intelligent or sophisticated enough to get into the misdirection market.
    Don't have to see something official, but using Boyega as part of your marketing without anything to show for it is financial suicide. There is no getting around that. The interest is down, and so will the money. That's simple common sense.
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    Then give some ideas. Otherwise the best thing for his character is to move on with his life and let them solve their own problems. They haven't done any of that so far.
     
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    Nope. But I guess you can infer it based on how the film plays out.
    However, I do think Finn receiving and 'using' the lightsaber was supposed to be framed as a significant event with some implications that had nothing to do with Rey. The novelization actually refers to it as a 'gift' for Finn and takes the time to point out his proficiency with it as well as pose a question about his worthiness regarding it in the future. The novelization is an official Lucasfilm product and meant to be a canonical source for the film. So one could argue that both things could be true. That is, the lightsaber was going to end up with Rey but it had personal significance for Finn. I personally think that is the case.
     
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    Everyone is certainly entitled to there opinion about intelligence and sophistication. The clips are out of context and the fans are the ones that rumor and speculate. A trailer showing Boyega light a lightsaber doesn't have to translate into he is supposed to be a jedi IMO. ESB trailer could have had the clip of Han lighting Lukes lightsaber and fans could have speculated Han would be a Jedi. Nothing wrong with it but wouldn't mean Han was meant/intended to be Jedi. It would just be misspeculation about a clip out of context. Not sure how it is showing the interest is down at this moment. I missed that data.
     
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    Star Wars had misdirected marketing before:


    I remember people thinking this confirmed Vader appearing in AOTC.

    The movies are giving them already. Finn broke free from the FO without the help of the force. He can wield a lightsaber without the help of the force. Finn is probably the most loyal SW character to date, this makes him special. I'm not saying it makes him a good character though. This everyone's own decision.
     
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    So glad I'm not alone :)

     
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    Believe me...you're not!;)
     
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    I don't care about loyalty. That's for dogs, and no dog has been as loyal as Chewbacca. Everything you said about Finn was in the first movie. That was interesting, but they never followed up on anything. We mostly saw the first movie through him, because he is right in the middle of it. Rey was an outside character in TFA. While she may have the force. She doesn't have enough of a story or motivation to be the only lead. You don't have to be FS to be special, but you do have to be your own man. We love Han, because he is his own man. TLJ took away all of Finn's manhood.
     
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    You should. Loyalty is a very important part in any relationship. :p

    Well, she isn't the only lead. You have Finn, Poe and Kylo.

    TLJ repeated the same Finn plot from TFA (which is a bad thing), but Finn didn't lose is manhood. What ever this term "manhood" even means...
     
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    We know what a man is. It's how nations are built, and unless people want to give up power then I suggest they learn what manhood is real quick.
    Finn wasn't a man, because he didn't make any decision that he benefited from. Others benefit more from his decisions than he does. Men don't do that. That's what people do who are looking for the approval of others.

    Han didn't give a damn about what others thought. His decisions were his own. That's a man.
     
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    Do we though?

    You are suggesting man alone built nations? Oh boy, this is wrong on so many levels. Women are as much needed as men. Manhood differs from culture to culture btw.

    That's the typical and also outdated "alpha man" thinking. Men who are doing stuff only to benefit themselves are selfish and often seen as pricks. We live in a society where people should help and respect each other.

    But he changed and began helping others without wanting anything in exchange. He went from selfish to caring for others. That's a man for me.
     
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    *through the first 2.5 acts of ANH
    ....what does that make Han for the rest of the saga?

    Also.
    As curious as I am about where this conversation about "manhood" is headed, I think it's best that we drop that argument and move onto something a little more directly Finn related.
     
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    Can you please define "Agenda"??
     
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    That were all jerks?
     
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