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Main Finn/John Boyega Episode IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by DailyPlunge, Jan 1, 2018.

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Where will Finn be at the start of Episode IX

Poll closed Dec 21, 2019.
  1. A grunt for the Resistance

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  2. A leader of the Resistance

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  3. A spy

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  4. A Jedi student

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    I didn't want to post a whole thread for this so I will leave this here. Finn fans both those who have been reading spoilers (like me) and those who have not. Based on the marketing, previews, tv spots, (and spoilers if you've read them) Have your expectations increased or decreased for Finn's character for ROS? Just respond INCREASED or DECREASED. You can say why if you wish or not explain at all.

    I'll go first...DECREASED (no explanation for now).
     
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    I always hoped he would be a descendant of Mace Windu. GL and SJ both have stated Mace survived Palpatine's lightning blast.
     
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    I had always hoped for more for Finn. He got totally screwed in 7 & 8 and things aren’t really looking up for him. His character had so much potential in my eyes. I was hoping maybe for a FS individual that was going from a grunt for the bad guys to a bold leader and sort of new style free formed light side user or I was even hoping he was an resistance secret agent infiltrator in the FO, but we got what we got. The ROTS media so far doesn’t seem to offer much new ground for Finn but I am hoping just as a logical progression Finn would be in at the very least a leadership type role.
     
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    My random pot-shot theory for Finn at the moment is him and Rose having been an item for a year or so, and she discovers she's pregnant, right as/before the battle that determines the fate of the galaxy begins. And then he discovers he has a sister. So now he has things to fight for.

    Do I want the above to happen? Not really; I'm a Rose fan, but I'm also a Finn x Rey person (yes, I know it'll never happen). But it's a "logical" progression that I see. I really hope I'm wrong.

    Increased over TLJ, decreased compared to where I was post-TFA pre-TLJ. Finn actually being paired up with Poe and Rey for this movie is an automatic win (and the fact that HE is there during two of Rey's big moments (escaping the F.O. and on the wreckage fighting Kylo) makes my shipper heart happy. Heck, even in the few scenes we get of Finn in the trailers, he's infinitely more active and has much more movement (in terms of location) than the teasers of TLJ. But that doesn't mean much.
     
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    I want one clue a home planet or something about Finn's origins. That is the best I can hope for. The plan is apparently for Rey to appear to be a nobody but really have ties to...the past (no spoiler) There is multiple references to Finn's abduction but likely no payoff as to from where. I don't need ties to a legacy character or a reveal that someone in the film is a relative. I'd be alright with a small bit of dialogue like... "You were taken from Coruscant, Mandalore, Haruun Kal, Naboo" someplace we could recognize. I'd be like ok cool. If we randomly found out he was Quarsh Panaka's grandson I'd be like alright somebody thought about my man Finn. My expectations are low. But GIVE Finn something. Already sidelined an interesting character at least add some background or meaning to his arc. I'm sure the rest of the film will be satisfying but give my man Finn a little love.
     
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    I was also hoping for Finn to be a force user. I'm bummed. His character had so much potential.
     
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    I always felt like Finn could work as Luke's son (Force Sensitive or not) due to the sheer amount of shout-outs Finn's character gets to Luke in TFA, but that's selfish fan dreams. In reality, I never really questioned who Finn's parents were. Finn wasn't waiting on family - he already accepted he'd never really meet them and the story didn't spend time really asking who he was (JJ's comments about Finn not having a last name can be taken as "he has no first or last name because he's a stormtrooper"). Finn wanted freedom, and that free hope of who Finn could become is what made him so interesting and full of potential. He wasn't dragged down by the story's expectations or legacies, or even his own in-world past post-TFA. But some of the comic and novel writers (Jason Fry I believe) are most excited for Finn's story, so I have hope.
     
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    I think Finn and Rey's characters are opposite sides of the same coin. They both got pulled into the conflict from obscurity with no ties to any part of it nor any person. They were both so blind to begin with they didn't even know if Luke really existed. Both abandoned/captured, both slaves (to a degree) and neither had any real chance at changing their lives.

    Everything about them is 'different but same' (to quote Mr Miyagi). However the one massive difference is the level of expectation. Rey has become the next New Hope and is front and centre of everything and Finn is just doing everything he can to matter, but very much in the background.

    I think they have opposing motivations to a degree aswell. Rey seems to be trying to earn everyone's acceptance yet she's not trying to prove anything to anyone else; only to herself. Finn is the same except he is trying to prove himself to the people around him. I think this stems from the FO background.

    If Finn was FS and a trainee jedi etc you wouldn't have that dynamic. Although I do agree that in TLJ his character was under utilised and under appreciated. I don't think RJ knew what to do with him. Hopefully this time around his character will get more of the attention his potential arc deserves.

    Just for gods sake stop all Maclunkey WOOOing.
     
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    But you could. What if he was FS but nobody trusted him because of his Stormtrooper history? That it was too ingrained? That he couldn't be good? And then Finn eventually decides to give up on pleasing people because it's not his job to convince other people. He simply needs to be what he wants to be (which is inherently good, if TFA taught me anything). Because a minority told that you can't break free of your past/racial history/societal expectations and then realizing it's not on THEM to change how society views them, but by being themselves they can change society itself is far more impactful than "the military industrial complex"*

    Rey goes from "I'm nobody and I want to be someone" to "I am me, and that's enough." Fin goes from "I'm was a nobody stormtrooper and I want to be different" to "I am me and that's enough."

    *This arc is important to discuss and Star Wars is awesome for trying to address it, but I still believe Finn was the wrong choice to bring that arc in.
     
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    John Boyega: “Before [Star Wars], I was just living from project to project. A ‘Star Wars’ film means six or seven months that I’m paying my bills.” “Even as a normal person in the audience, I wanted to see where that [J. J. Abrams] story was going [after Star Wars: The Force Awakens].” “It was sweet to play a character who grows in front of people’s eyes, and it’s bitter, leaving that consistency. Now I have to go and create my own path.” (December 11, 2019)
     
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    John Boyega: "I don't know [what the combination of J. J. Abrams and Rian Johnson brings out of this trilogy]. I don't know. I don't know...like I just think it's each individual's time for them to kind of have their own creative take [on] a space opera. And I think J. J.'s gonna do what he's gonna do based on his decisions and his individuality and the same way as Rian. It's two different feels. But I definitely feel it feels good though for me to have the consistency of one director coming back obviously from the beginning [on Episode VII] and then coming in to tie up the loose ends and confirm this whole story."

     
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    This is a small spoiler because it comes with no context or explanation but a twitter leaker who was at the premiere says:

    It is implied Finn is Force sensitive
     
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    ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU MEAN IN THE LAST EPISODE THEY TELL US THIS?:mad:
     
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    It is, but Rian johnson probably didn't want that and he ignored it. But since it was JJ abrams 's idea, it's back. Too bad it's too late to do anything about it. So it's like JJ abrams telling Finn's fans " yes, you were right at eps 7, sorry ".
     
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