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Main Finn/John Boyega Episode IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by DailyPlunge, Jan 1, 2018.

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Where will Finn be at the start of Episode IX

Poll closed Dec 21, 2019.
  1. A grunt for the Resistance

    20 vote(s)
    20.4%
  2. A leader of the Resistance

    64 vote(s)
    65.3%
  3. A spy

    5 vote(s)
    5.1%
  4. A Jedi student

    9 vote(s)
    9.2%
  1. NinjaRen

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    This reminds me of that deleted scene from the TLJ:


    While this scene was a bit rough, I think this would have been a nice set up for a rebellion lead by Finn.
     
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  2. RoyleRancor

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    Mostly what @eeprom said.
    Yes those are technically more rebel Stormtroopers but they also take the sails out of it being an active story for Finn by having it be force related. The story to tell there is one where Finn is the rebellion for the troopers. Which would have been a perfect wrap for his story IMO.
    Leaving the First Order for mostly selfish reasons, to learning to fight for what he loves and not against what he hates, to saving the people stuck in the same situation as he was in.

    I think if they had one trooper flee the area after Finn says that, it would be the perfect set up.
     
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  3. Use the Falchion

    Use the Falchion Jedi Contrarian

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    Because who needs logical explanations when is rocketing forward at a hundred miles per hour? :confused:
    And riding horses on space-ships is cool! (Admittedly, the concept of sieging a space-ship from the outside while it's still in atmosphere IS really cool. It just doesn't make complete sense if the spaceship in question can just tilt over for a time and everyone could fall off, though.)
     
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  4. eeprom

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    It’s just indicative of so much in TROS where resolutions play as payoffs to setups that never happened. We can maybe infer that Finn gave them the same pitch he did during that “rousing” speech before storming the castle, “They've taken enough of us. Now we take the war to them.” But, like so much in that film, it skips over the bit where he earns their trust/respect and jumps right to its conclusion.

    Like the “It's not a navy, sir, it's just people” line. It could have been so affective if they’d actually laid the track for it. To me, it landed limp and hallow.
     
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    This. And then we have people saying- Rian Johnson tied up all loose ends, JJ Abrams had not nothing to work with...

    Absolutely agree. And this was such a 'heroism of the ordinary person moment'
    that totally fell flat. Dunkirk did it great, it's obvious that JJ Abrams was going for this message... But again, it fell flat.
     
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    I wish we would have actually seen those people. TROS should have started with those people denying the call of the Resistance.
     
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    Exactly. It’s presented as if it was development from TLJ: “We sent out a call for help at the Battle of Crait. Nobody came. Everyone's so afraid. They've given up.” But that isn’t reinforced at all in TROS and not provided any context beyond “good people will fight if we lead them.” Our only real identity for these “good people” though is Wedge showing up.

    But, like so much else in that movie, we aren’t given any in-narrative significance for that. Did Wedge not want to fight, but had his heart and mind changed by Lando’s inspirational message of hope? I guess so? There’s no dimension to it. So it plays instead like ‘hey, look, we paid Denis Lawson enough for him to make a cameo in this one’. Cheap and unearned.

    It’s similar with Finn. In concept, I think it’s a great idea to have the character be the inverse of where he was introduced. He enters the story as someone rejecting an unhealthy group dynamic. In TROS, he’s dramatically shifted to being the one struggling to keep the group together. “Alone with friends.” I really like the idea. It’s a natural extension of what came before. But that’s not character growth that happens on screen. He, evidently, got to that place in-between episodes.

    So TROS doesn’t really advance him in any meaningful way. Who he is at the start is basically who he is at the end. He just trusts his instincts more now, because . . . Force. Which is fine I suppose, but pretty unfulfilling when compared to his potential after TFA I feel.
     
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    Well when you only have so many hours to prevent an attack. You do what you have to and pray.
     
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    ...were you just responding to something that you didn't have time to before? Or is this a new thought? Because I have a response ready if you want to discuss, but I have a feeling we both know that we're not going to agree with each other at the end of the day on this movie...
     
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