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Main Kylo Ren/Adam Driver Episode IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by LadyMusashi, Jul 5, 2018.

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    Ben Solo was manipulated from even before his birth by Snoke. So it's takes much more for him to get redeemed than killing Snoke. Ben Solo biggest enemie against the fight of the darkness is Kylo Ren respectively himself. He has to overcome himself and his inner demons, then he can be redeemed.

    You have to put yourself in Kylo's position: he was a human wreck after the throne room fight, he couldn't be reasonable anymore. Rey made it even worse and Ren chose the wrong path.
     
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    I understand your point that Ben's biggest enemy is himself and his inner darkness. What i mean is that i don't know how they are going to bring about his redemption in the film. There has to be a catalyst for this, a moment where he has a choice put in front of him again like in TLJ, only this time he chooses correctly but what this situation would be i don't know.
     
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    Well, he did the right thing when Snoke tasked him to kill Rey, didn't he? I wouldn't be surprised if Rey, again, will be the key to this in Episode IX.
     
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    He'll be realising that the dark side power promised is a myth. He'll be becoming disillusioned with the war. Hux will betray him. He'll be gravely injured. And if still resistant, his grandfather will appear and tell him how he made the same mistakes. He'll then join the Resistance and help Rey out - but probably die in doing so.
     
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    As @RockyRoadHux already mentioned that catalyst could be Rey. What if Kylo and Rey fight again, but this this Kylo wins the fight? He's about to kill her, but he can't do it.
    I would also like that Anakin plays a big role in his grandson's redemption.
     
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    there's been like.. 3 fleeting mentions of Vader during TFA & TLJ?

    Anakin or Vader must play a part in episode 9. you can't bring the saga together without his involvement in some shape or form.
    i'd give anything to have a scene with Ben & Anakin.

    i regularly hunt for clues that Hayden is involved with filming. come on JJ... do it ! :D
     
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    Quite recently Mike Zeroh (yeah, hate me, I don't care) talked about a scene involving Kylo and Anakin, which I liked quite alot. Kylo is standing on the bridge of a Star Destroyer and looks out of the window. In the reflection of the window we can see Anakin's shape which slowly turns to Vader. Something like this concept art:
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    I would dig that.
     
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    how would you feel if it went the other way.. he sees Vader and the face slowly changes to Anakin?

    it confuses the crap out of Kylo.. and then he meets Anakin FG face to face later on?
     
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    I would also like that. But I like the following message more: "look grandson, this is what you will become if you don't stop."
     
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    Does anybody know on what planet Ben Solo grew up ?
     
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    He was born on Chandrila. He probably grew up there too.
     
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    I've been thinking about this too and feel this choice could be saving someone very empathetic and vulnerable, like a child... This would show that humanity he so much is trying to repress... Or someone dear to the audience, like Chewie, or dear to Rey, like Finn.

    I have even thought this person he could save might be Rose... It would make him sympathetic as she would be the last person one would think he would care for... and in some way that works in making him a better person. Also this would give Kelly an opportunity to be part of the main action in the film.
     
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    I’m not sure if they could make it work based on the footage they have, but I think before Carrie Fisher’s passing, Leia would have been the key to his redemption. The Last Jedi showed that Kylo has a soft spot for his mother, so it is very possible that he does something in Episode IX to save his mother — in the eyes of the audience, that just might be the only thing that might redeem him for killing Han.

    That being said, the most likely scenario is that Rey is the one he saves, which would be the catalyst for his redemption. I’m fine with that, too. I really feel like Rey and Leia are the only two people who even stand a chance of redeeming him, though, he won’t listen to anyone else.
     
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    Interesting. These concept arts looks amazing. But I'm not sure if JJ will use Hayden as Anakin, my guess is that they probably use Vader mask instead only. Remember that I lot of fans (me include) are not a big fan of the prequels, specially how Anakin's character was portraided. I'm not sure if JJ wants any direct link with the prequels. My guess.
     
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    Hayden was brought back for the last Celebration and furthermore JJ DID say he wants to have huge links with the PT.
     
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    I didn't know that. Well, in JJ I trust (with Hayden or no hayden in the movie). TFA was awesome and I'm sure he wont ruin ep. IX.
     
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    he ain't talking. XD

     
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    Haha, this is so perfect. "NOPE." :p Well, at least I'm glad he took it with a laugh rather than being grumpy about it.
     
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