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Main Palpatine/Ian Mcdiarmid Episode IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Bluemilk, Apr 13, 2019.

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    Never believe what an author says about his own work :p
     
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    This is not a statement that was made by Charles Soule: it is a statement that was made by a member of the Lucasfilm Story Group (I want to say that it was Matt Martin, but I could be wrong).
     
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    I'm still dubious. I'm sure that, for now, it's not a certain thing. But there's nothing to prevent them from coming along and saying that for sure Ol' Sheevy created Little Ani.
     
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    The context in which the statement I've referenced was made is that someone went on Twitter and asked the LSG member who made said statement about the comic and its narrative implications for both Anakin and Palpatine's characters now that the latter had been revealed to Canonically be the former's "father".

    Because the Story Group's entire reason for existing is to serve as the coordinators and clarifiers of what is and is not part of Star Wars' narrative Canon, the fact that the answer given by the LSG member in question was that we were not meant to interpret the comic's images as being narratively literal is quite significant.
     
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    They could have gone the Stephen King route, and had Palpatine upload his conciousness/memories to The Death Star.. prior to the events of Return of the Jedi. The Emperor's ultimate goal has always been "unlimited power" and this would fit with that. The Death Star may have been built, to give him what he thought was immortality (and immense power) (emperor)
     
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    I just theorized the same thing in another thread. Both times Snoke was talking about Luke. Lol. My money is on Luke.
    While Snoke didn't say The Force Awakens, he was the guy that said "There is an AWAKENing, have you felt it?"

    Old Snoke is full of titles! I want Episode X - You're Just a Child in a Mask
     
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    ^ Both "The Force Awakens" and "The Last Jedi" titles referred to Rey.
     
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    Imo Tfa referred to Rey, tlj to Luke, and tros refers to Kylo Ren.
     
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    This is an inaccurate opinion per TLJ itself, as Rey is specifically identified as being "the last Jedi" during the film.
     
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    I don't understand how people don't get this. It's so obvious. Even the movies tell us that Kylo is about to rise:

    ah0p033ea4t21.jpg

    Hahaha!
     
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    Ian McDiarmid: "Like everybody else, I had no idea what the title was. They did let me into the secret that the Emperor might be laughing, but I have to tell you that that particular laugh was not specially recorded, they found it somewhere. Probably from one of the old movies or in a digital vault or maybe George's iPhone, I don't know." “What I liked about [the teaser] though – that’s why I think it’s a real tease – I mean, the new title ‘Rise of the Skywalkers’ is wonderful and then from the past – maybe from hell – a laugh that comes which sort of implies, ‘yeah, right.’ So in other words, ‘Skywalkers rising? I don’t think so.'” “We love the mystery and we love the great moments of revelation and people seemed to think we had one the other morning [with the teaser], which surprised me. The headline of that whole panel and indeed the trailer is the word ‘tease’, so don’t take it too seriously. Have a laugh about it.” (April 15, 2019)

    Ian McDiarmid: “‘Is [Emperor Palpatine]…?’ And before I could even finish the sentence. ‘Dead, yes,’ [said George Lucas]. ‘Well, couldn’t he perhaps…’ [I said]. ‘No. He’s dead,’ [said George Lucas] ‘Well, wouldn’t it be interesting if…?’[I said]. ‘Forget it,’ [said George Lucas].” (April 15, 2019)
     
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    "The droid will soon be delivered to Resistance. Leading them to THE LAST JEDI. If SKYWALKER (*pointing at Kylo*) returns the new Jedi will RISE."
     
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    Read my post. I didn’t say the titles were about Luke. I said Snoke was referring to Luke in the context of the film.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 19, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 19, 2019 ---
    Too bad it’s not true. His name isn’t Ben Skywalker. It’s Ben Solo. Names mean something. Every film title has been about Rey at the end. If Ben Solo returns, it would be called The Rise of Solo.
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    He’s pointing at him because it would be his fault, not because he’s calling him a Skywalker. Geez. Are you seriously implying that Snoke just insinuated that "If Skywalker returns" line was about Ben returning from the dark side? Because I'm flabbergasted if thats your take.
     
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    You do understand how bloodlines work right? You also understand that "Kylo" is a mix of Skywalker and Solo? Snoke also said he could predict every move of his Apprentice, guess how well that worked out for him.
     
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    Please don't condescend. I've said it a number of times that being part of the Skywalker bloodline and actually being CALLED SKYWALKER are two different things. You don't name the movie after a character that isn't called that name!!!!!
     
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    Says the person who was condescending. I can call myself any name I want to, but it doesn't mean anything if there isn't a bloodline to prove it. Is Leia not a Skywalker to you because she doesn't have last name? Also based on your logic, I can name myself Skywalker and boom I'm a Skywalker now.
     
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    No, shes not what the title refers to. She has Skywalker blood which makes her powerful in the force. But she isn't a Skywalker. Her name means something. She's an Organa and a Solo in her heart more than a Skywalker by blood. The blood gives her magical powers, her family gave her an identity.
     
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    Too bad he's the most "skwalkish" character of this trilogy. Furthermore "The Rise Of Skywalker" doesn't necessarily mean redemption. It could also mean a Skywalker rises to power.

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    The force isn't inheritable. That's canon.
     
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    What if he's only mostly dead?!
     
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    I would argue Rey is the most Skywalker-ish.

    Luke says "Then I see my nephew, WITH THAT MIGHTY SKYWALKER BLOOD". Every blood related relative in that family has it.
    "The Force is strong in my family. My father has it, I have it, and my sister has it".

    The Bloodline is strong in the force. The name has meaning. Both can be true. The title refers to someone named Skywalker that rises. It could be BOTH Luke and Rey. Rey taking the name and Luke returning from death. It won't be Ben Solo because he isn't called SKYWALKER by name and he doesn't need to RISE, he already rose to power as the Supreme Leader of the FO. He would need to RETURN to being BEN SOLO. Not Rise as a Skywalker.
     
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