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Making a prequel trilogy for the ST.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Sparafucile, Jul 14, 2018.

  1. Too Bob Bit

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    I've seen this said about 'the lore' more than once, but I'm not exactly sure what lore hasn't been respected. It seems quite respectful to the previous films I think.

    As for canon - you don't need the franchise owner to 'strike' them from canon - you can do that for yourself.

    Maybe just try and enjoy the ST as a self-contained work of fiction which needs a back story no more than the OT did.
     
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    Isn't the next animated Star wars series by Filoni, Star Wars Resistance, set after the OT and before the ST? It might act as a prequel series.
     
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    Yes, but it has completely new characters. Characters like Poe and Phasma will have cameos though.
     
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    Move the story forward and expand the universe not shrink it.
    I liked Solo and really liked Rogue One. But they don't actually push the universe forward.
    They could have but didn't. They came close but kind of pulled back.

    Any ST "prequel" material should be in books/comics or TV shows.
    Let the movies move forward.
     
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    That last part you said about having it self contained doesn't work.

    Moving forward, the Luke from TLJ will be that Luke that will be referenced in all future movies, or we'll know watching any prequel that he turns into that. We'll know hyperspace jumps are possibly used as a devastating attack. We'll know Yoda can come in and call down lightning. We'll know Rey was gifted her powers and skill, she never worked to earn it. We'll know Finn's arc and all the weakness it holds. If Reylo happens, we'll know this new "good guy" committed patricide in front of his future wife, and she loves him despite this. Every issue people have with TLJ or the ST will live on in every other movie that comes out. As long as the ST remains canon, we can't simply just isolate the ST into it's own thing. It affects everything else, past, present and future.

    So any sequel, prequel or spin off will use the ST as a foundation piece, much like the OT and PT are foundation pieces.

    Now I don't have an issue with every aspect I've mentioned, and some of the issues I have with some of those are relatively minor, but I haven't named them all. The list of things TLJ that is now canon and people dislike and can no longer ignore is long and different for every individual.

    I think that's kind of the point. These movies are not self contained, their episodic, which means every decision they make will have to be adhered to in some way by the next writers.
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    Or, whatever is introduced in each movies will echo throughout the universe. This isn't a criticism, it's an observation. If you liked all those things, you'll get more of it now. Because now it's canon and it's been introduced, so it can be replicated.

    However, we've wandered off topic. I just often hear this reasoning to keep it self contained, and I'm of the belief that it can't be done for the reasons I've posted above.
     
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    I agree with you, but I also don't see them removing the ST from canon. Even if the fan base is split 50/50 on the ST, any move to remove the ST would cause further division. Heck, even if 70% of fans dislike the ST, you still wouldn't want to lose that 30%, nor would you want that taint on the franchise (admitting this trilogy sucked and starting over, when you'll never get the big 3 back on set again. (I'm not saying these ratios are accurate, so please don't jump down my throat if you love the ST. I'm not saying my opinion is not in dispute, but Boss Vos and I hold close to the same opinion on the ST so far, I think. I'm just pointing out that even in a nightmare scenario for lovers, decanonizing the ST is not a viable option. At least I'm trying to make points to that end. I mean no offense, apologies in advance.)

    I can only speak for myself, but I think with more context provided by the prequel, I would be able to immerse myself more into the ST. Things like hyperdrive smashes could be discussed, maybe even witnessed on a smaller scale. We could get more Snoke back story. We can see Luke's fall to the point of TLJ and be able to believe. I think a lot of issues that some fans have could be explored quickly, just to add enough context to get them to more easily accept the ST.

    If not in movie form, I think live action would be the next best bet to get to the most possible fans.

    In all honesty, I don't see KK or the current LFL team and top brass going this route. If IX struggles enough to give Disney a scare though and KK leaves and there's a big change at the top of Disney SW, then maybe something like this would be at least considered. For right now though, they're ignoring the elephant in the room and hoping IX brings everything together. It's possible they know something I don't and they're right to count on IX to bring all the fans back.
     
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    I am worried about the timeline between 6 and 7 being filled in. I like to think that there was peace in the galaxy for about two 20-25 years before the First Order shows up. Filling out that time will disrupt that peace.
     
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    Has our own planet known peace for the last 100-200 years? I don't know how someone can expect an entire galaxy to for a few decades. It might not be on the same scale, but I can't imagine an entire galaxy being at complete peace. Many parts of the galaxy are not even under control of the empire or republic. Species are vastly different and with the loss of the empire there would be a vacuum, so if not war, organized crime would flourish while the republic struggles to get a hold.
     
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    I think it's canon that there wasn't really peace. The fight against the remaining Empire was still going on.
     
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