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SPECULATION "Mara" Pulls It All Together

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by JediJurist, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. Maximus

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    @JediJurist thank you for the thought, time and effort that went into that.. i loved it.

    you had me at..
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    You're welcome. Just a bit of the fun stuff that could come out of a Mara character. What I think is interesting, is she could be used to explain a ton of loose ends in the ST.

    For example, she could quickly explain more of Luke's post-ROTJ past to Kylo or Rey. She could be used as an instrument to better explain or help rationalize the reasonableness of Luke's exile (Snoke held her hostage and would kill her if Luke ever returned to the known galaxy). She could be used to better explain Snoke himself. She could be used to explain Rey's past or abandonment on Jakku. She could be used to help turn Kylo back to the light side (and/or help fill the role that Leia might have been scheduled to play).

    Lot's of cool possibilities from a storytelling perspective that could better piece the ST together -- My guess is she'll be the one to deliver the message(s) that end up being the twist(s) of the ST....
     
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    whilst i don't think you're right... we are so in the dark about what ep9 might be about that i don't discount anything at this stage. who knows? lol

    what i will say though, is that at no point have i thought that Rey wouldn't meet her parents.. or at the least find out who they actually are. I don't believe a word Kylo said to Rey in the throne room, he wanted her to feel the same way that he felt about her parents so that she would join her.

    it could be that they are in fact casting for Rey's mother (and it may only be for a flashback scene).
     
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    Interesting. I'm with you on thinking Kylo was manipulating Rey in the throne room. Rey still has no idea who her parents are, she just blurted out the thing she feared most after Kylo was working her over (that her parents were nobodies).

    I didn't think about the flashback possibility -- I was thinking "Mara" could be an in the flesh character but did wonder whether a 40-50 year old might seem a bit young for a Luke wife/girlfriend (yet, on second thought, it isn't that outrageous either especially since Hollywood has a long history of casting younger ladies as love interests for older males).

    So if Rey was ~6-8 years old when hidden away/left/abandoned on Jakku, that could mean "Mara" was around 34-42 years old when Rey was born, if Mara is Rey's mother... Maybe.
     
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    But wasn't that the whole point of TLJ? => Rey accepting that she is her own person and don't need to see her parents.

    Ren
    : "Your parents threw you away like garbage."
    Rey
    : "They didn't."
    Ren
    : "They did, but you can't stop needing them. It's your greatest weakness. Looking for them everywhere, in Han Solo, and now in Skywalker."

    If she gets to see them in IX now, then her whole development was for nothing. It's not about the past but the future and her furture, her family is now Finn, Poe and maybe Ben.
     
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    Correct. The parentage of Rey needs to die as a major topic of Star Wars stories.
     
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    i completely agree.. but as a member of the audience i have always thought that we would find out.

    this was a pathetic attempt at manipulating Rey into believing that she was in team 'crap parents' with Kylo.

    i also said that it could be in a flashback.. once Rey fully comes to terms with whatever happened in the past, we may get to see it.
    it doesn't need to be an 'i am your father moment'.. i just want to know where she came from. I'm not bothered if she does or not lol

    edit:
    just to add to that.. i think it's clear from the recent 'Mara' thing, that there are still many that are still waiting for a big reveal. for our own sanity.. we need to see this girl's ruddy parents lol
     
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    Oh come on, they are using 'Mara' as a casting call to mess with us, and we're falling for it. If they were actually casting Mara Jade or Luke's wife they would NEVER put out a call for Mara. I mean if I was making the movie it would be so tempting just to play these sorts of jokes.
     
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    Exactly. It's for us to talk about and build hype slowly.
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    I don't think seeing them would solve anything.
    "Oh well she could just be misremembering!"
    "Snoke clearly altered her visions of them when he connected her and Kylo!"

    People will make every bloody excuse on the planet to justify why what they want didn't happen rather than realizing and accepting a story for what it is.
     
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    its not that hard when what the story is isnt very good as it currently stands and destroyed the original trilogy
     
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    it is good.
    It didn't destroy the original trilogy.
     
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    (Reads Thread)....facepalm.
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    I'm old enough to remember when the prequel trilogy apparently destroyed the original trilogy....
     
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    Yep, that SHOULD go without saying. I can see 'em now giggling at their choice of placeholder name, knowing that certain fans would get all jittery and frothy at even the SLIGHTEST notion that it was a reality...it's just wrong and evil.

    Hell, I'm one of the bigger Mara fans, but we've all got to be smart enough to know that this is a ruse....an evil and just plain wrong ruse.
     
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    Just imagine when the fake production name "Cloned Red-Heads In Space" hits
     
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    I do not see any development but retardment if person's development if one stops needing its parents after never met him or even investigate..

    Its Kylo, not Rey.Rey will never stop needing her unknown parents, if she ever does that, she will became like Kylo, and no more our Rey.

    How is that coldblooded unstable patricidal murderer has suddenly became an authority on the field of character developmnet which Rey should listen?

    You are citing by opinion a many what was just a dark side giberish that Kylo has tried to sell to Rey before she slapped the dors in his face.
     
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    I think you didn't understand this movie at all. Kylo is actuall the one who needed his parents all life long, while Rey didn't. That's what the movie tries to tell you.
     
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    exactly this. Ren is what happens when you can't let go of your desperate need.
    his whole speech to Rey is completely ironic.
    as is almost always the case with him, when he's talking to other people, he's really talking about himself.
    his fear of being nobody in spite of his birthright and power, his need to reconcile with his parents, his inability to let go of the past.
     
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    "No, no. You're still holding on! Let go!"

    The irony of him saying that to Rey is so strong.
     
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    he does it in TFA too: his whole thing to her in the interrogation about her being "so alone", "afraid to leave", feeling like Han was the father "she never had".
    all of that is really self-reflexive.
     
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    I'm a little confused with the math here.... if Mara is going to be played by a 40-50 year old (so we can safely assume the character is of a similar age) and her story isn't a flash back, I would think she would be 21-31 years old when Rey was born (whether she is related to Rey or not).
     
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