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SPECULATION "Mara" Pulls It All Together

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by JediJurist, Apr 23, 2018.

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    No problem. Keep it coming!
     
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    And remember that the writers made a point to have Rey state out loud in TLJ that Luke had cut himself off from the Force. Also, the movies demonstrate that the Force-radar power only works after someone realizes they have a significant connection to someone (point being, if Rey is in fact Luke's daughter, the best way to handle the situation would be if he didn't realize he had a daughter--for example if Luke's wife was kidnapped by Snoke while pregnant....).
     
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    Yea, there has been only one kiss so far and I doubt we will find out Finn and Rose are related. Although things happen.
     
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    I've written four parts in this thread so far. You can find them quickly by scrolling for the green lettered posts (I'm wondering if I should put them together into one post so people can see them together from now on???)
     
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    Um that's not what I'm talking about Luke and Leia's relationship...
     
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    I read them all! Very intriguing. Sure you could keep posting them here.
     
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    “Mara” Pulls It All Together: Part V

    The Millennium Falcon jumps out of hyperspace above the smoggy planet known as Charoon. As it approaches atmosphere, we see shabby living structures scattered around a massive industrial complex. Not wanting any unwelcome attention, the Falcon flies low above the forest outside of the very run down town. The Falcon dips behind a tree line and lands outside the edge of town. Through the trees we see the town is comprised of a cramped piling of huts and makeshift living shelters sitting at the base of what appears to be a large foundry.

    Rey, Chewy, Artoo, Finn, and Rose exit the Falcon. They take turns looking through binoculars at the impoverished town.


    Rose: Welcome to Sha'Tal of Charoon. For an undeveloped planet in the unknown regions, that foundry seems too large and complex an operation for the native population.

    Finn: Look. On the top right tower. There's an First Order scientific officer. It's a First Order manufacturing facility. (Finn scans the rest of the town) No sign of any Stormtroopers in the town though....

    Rey: This is uncharted territory. What are they making?... Chewy, Artoo -- stay with the Falcon. We may need a quick exit.

    Rey holds out a device which emits a holographic image of the person they are looking for. She turns to speak to Finn and Rose.

    Rey
    : This is the only surviving student we know of from Luke Skywalker's old academy. Her name is Cam Kirana. Resistance intelligence says she lives underground on the far end of Sha'Tal. She comes up every so often to purchase food from the market bazaar. We must approach her very cautiously. She's been hiding from First Order bounty hunters for years.

    Rey, Finn, and Rose walk away from the Falcon toward town. Chewy and Artoo stand at the base of the Falcon's exit ramp. Chewy gives out a few concerning, quiet roars as he watches Rey and company walk away. Behind him, seven porgs hop down the ramp of the Falcon, surveying the new planet. The porgs leap up and fly into the trees above Chewy. A porg dropping splashes on Chewy's head. Chewy growls and the porgs scatter from the branch above him.

    The scene cuts to Rey, Finn, and Rose walking the filthy streets of Sha'Tal. Each is in disguises, reminiscent of our past heroes who infiltrated Jabba's Palace in ROTJ. They spread out and set up posts far away but in eyesight of each other. The streets of the bazaar are filled with unique shops and aliens, all filthy from the pollution of the nearby foundry. Despite their poverty, the natives are peaceful and non-confrontational. Rey spots an individual filling a basket with vegetables. She wears a cloth mask over her nose and mouth. She turns toward Rey and catches her staring. It is Cam Kirana! Cam drops her basket and ducks down a side alley out of Rey's sight. Rey radios to Finn and Rose.

    Rey: (On her transmitter) I've spotted Cam Kirana. Rose -- she's heading toward your position. She has a gray hood and tall wooden walking staff.

    Rose: (On her transmitter) I see her. Closing in.


    Cam is rushing down the alley toward Rose but looking back over her shoulder to see if Rey is following her. Rose slowly walks into the middle of the alley in front of Cam with hands out in front of her.

    Rose: Cam, we're friends. We'd like to talk to you in private

    Cam stops startled in her tracks about 10 yards in front of Rose. Finn comes running up from a side alley, turns the corner and is surprised to come face to face with Cam. Cam ably spins her tall staff knocking the feet out from under Finn. Cam flees down a separate alley as Rose runs over to help up Finn. Rose and Finn chase after Cam. A bit further away Rey runs down an alley parallel to Cam. Cam nimbly maneuvers through the busy alleys of the bazaar. Rey slows her pace, thinks for a second, and runs heads in a different direction.

    Cam ducks down an empty alley, uncovers and pulls open a hidden hatch. She climbs down, closing the hatch behind her. Finn and Rose round the corner just in time to see the hatch close. They slow their pace, open the hatch and descend below the streets.

    Finn and Rose find themselves in a dimly lit mine of sorts, a railway tunnel.

    Finn: (Calling out into the tunnel) Cam Kirana, we've been sent by the Resistance. We need your help.


    Cam pops out from the shadows, again knocking Finn to his feet. Rose pulls out a staff of her own to defend herself. Cam charges Rose who stumbles backward doing her best to block volleys from Cam's staff. Finn picks himself up and runs up behind Cam jumping on her back. Cam whirls around, spins her staff and again knocks Finn to the ground. Finn lays on his back, feet up in the air.

    Cam: (With wild eyes fixated on Finn's boots) Stormtrooper boots! They've found me!


    Cam reaches into her gray cloak, pulling out and igniting a yellow lightsaber. Cam reaches back and swings down toward Finn. Just then, Rey blocks Cam's strike with the blue Skywalker saber. Cam, breathing heavily, looks shocked as the saber's blue light illuminates her face. Cam looks slowly over the length of the saber. Cam then refocuses her confused look toward Rey.

    Cam: (Backing away from Rey) Where did you get that? Who are you?


    Rey: It was given to me by Maz Kanata, an old friend of your master, Luke Skywalker. You know Maz. She is a friend like us.

    Cam: (Pausing to look at Finn, Rose, and Rey. Cam un-ignites her light saber. She appears more relaxed.) I don't think so. Nobody is given that saber.... It called to you.... Who are you?

    Finn: (Somewhat nervously and smarting from getting knocked over so much) We're... we're... with the Resistance. I... I used to be a Stormtrooper. Rose... um, she's a mechanic.

    Cam: (Ignoring Finn and walking toward Rey) No. Who are you?

    As Rey opens her mouth to answer, a Porg squeaks and rustles its way out from Rey's backpack, landing in front of Cam. Cam's eyes widen. She looks concerned.

    Cam: (Looking amazed at Rey) You've been to Acht-To.... Luke.... He trained you, didn't he? (Turning away from Rey and talking out loud to herself) The map I gave to Lor San Tekka.... It made it to the Resistance! The Jedi live!

    Cam's brief moment of excitement quickly fades away. A look of deep concern comes over her face. Cam nervously paces back and forth.


    Cam: We don't have much time.... You must come with me. We must flee! (Looking fearfully at Rey) He'll find you! He'll find me... all of us! Come!

    Cam begins running down the railway tunnel ducking into side tunnels. Finn, Rose, and Rey look at each other confused. They quickly hurry after Cam. Finn yells out to Cam as they run behind her.


    Finn: Wait! Who'll find us?

    Cam: (Stops running and turns toward Finn, Rose, and Rey. She looks afraid) Snoke.

    Rey: Cam. You don't have to run anymore. Snoke is dead--I saw Kylo Ren kill him with my own eyes.

    Cam: (Shaking her head at Rey and walking closer to her.) He won't be dead for long.
     
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    You might as well have Mara Jade be Rey’s mother at this point, given how TLJ turned out, it can go anywhere and it won’t matter. They might as well make Luke a horrible father.

    The basic message I’ve got out of this trilogy is that your childhood heroes ended up as horrible failures and nothing they did after ROTJ mattered because they became lousy parents.

    Why don’t we just make Finn a Calrissian while we’re at it because this universe is way too big.
     
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    Lousy parents?
     
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    “Mara” Pulls It All Together: Part VI

    Rey, Finn, and Rose sit across from Cam Kirana in a tunneled living space, far below the streets of Sha’Tal. Candle light fills the room. Cam leans forward.

    Cam: We have very little time. When Snoke returns, he will find you. It will be the end.

    Rey: Snoke is dead. I saw it with my own eyes.

    Cam: No. No. Snoke cannot be killed.... When Luke first met Snoke. He was a disciple, a young student of Luke’s. Luke quickly discovered Snoke’s deception. Snoke was a young man, but Luke discovered he was evil. Luke struck him down.

    But it was too late. Snoke had already infiltrated the mind of Ben Solo—Kylo REN— along with six other students. Luke had no idea. Snoke’s power to cheat death had fooled Master Skywalker. Snoke reappeared as the old man you knew. Snoke hid from Luke but overwhelmed Ben and the Knights with his immense power. The Dark Side poisoned Ben and his fellow students.

    Luke’s academy was destroyed. The Knights of Ren and Kylo Ren emerged from the Dark Side. I fled. As did others. I’m told I am the only survivor.

    I’m alive because I found Luke, many years after we fled the academy. Luke told me to cut myself off from the Force. He told me that Snoke could find and destroy me if I used the Force. He was right....

    So I hid. I ran from the First Order and the Knights of Ren who hunted me. Luke fled too, to find the earliest Jedi temples in hopes to uncover the secret to Snoke’s ability to cheat death. Luke fled to Acht-To and cut himself off from the Force, to hide from Snoke. To.... to... protect his.... wife.

    Snoke captured her— Luke’s wife, Mara Jade. She had been an imperial officer. Mara Jade had fled to the unknown regions after the destruction of the Endor Death Star. She joined the First Order. Snoke knew her well— he thought she could infiltrate Luke’s Academy and influence Luke.

    And she did. Mara eventually trained under Luke. She saw his wisdom, his compassion. She realized the folly of the First Order. Mara Jade fell in love with Luke Skywalker..... They married but Luke never knew— Mara was with child.

    Luke often left the academy to fight for the Resistance. When he last did so, Snoke was ready, waiting. Snoke could track anyone who was powerful with the Force. He tracked down and kidnapped Mara. Impisoned her. Snoke then took the opportunity to corrupt Ben Solo and his classmates.

    When Luke returned, Ben was conflicted. Mara was missing. Luke felt the conflict in Ben. Luke confronted Ben. Ben lashed out, destroying the academy along with his classmates. Ben know identified as the leader of the Knights of Ren. Luke and I were fortunate to survive their ambush.

    Snoke will live again. You may have destroyed him, but he will re-emerge. Long ago, Snoke learned the ancient power to cheat death. Luke scoured the galaxy to learn this power, to defeat Snoke once and for all.

    But Snoke had Mara Jade hostage. Snoke threatened Luke. Snoke vowed to kill Mara Jade if Luke didn’t leave the known galaxy. So Luke cut himself off from the Force and fled to the find the first Jedi temple. He fled in search of a way to destroy Snoke—To find the first Jedi temple.

    But Luke made a mistake. For the power to cheat death is not a power learned from the Jedi. Snoke will revive. If you want to destroy him, and the First Order, you need to uncover the greatest power of the Dark Side. Rey- you must travel to the Sith planet of Korriban to learn the teachings of Darth Plagiues.

     
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    Mara Jade is Enfys Nest :eek:

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    “Mara” Pulls It All Together: Part VII

    General Poe Dameron walks about the bridge of the Star Cruiser Organa getting updates from various officers on the status of the scattered Resistance fleet. The ship is traveling through hyperspace.

    Poe: Any word from Rey or Finn?

    Officer #2: We received a transmission that they had made contact with the last of Luke Skywalker's Jedi. But their signals have faded out. We are unable to reach them--they could be underground. We do know that Chewbacca and R2D2 are still waiting for their return aboard the Millennium Falcon just outside of Sha'Tal.

    Poe: If this person we're about to meet truly is Mara Jade Skywalker, this Jedi of Luke's would be able to verify her identity. Send a transmission to Chewbacca. Tell him need to speak with Rey and Finn and the Jedi as soon as possible.... Ah, Chewbacca will understand the message, right? (Various officers on the bridge give unsure shrugs and feeble knobs "yes" and "no") Great. Let's make the transmission short and simple, okay?

    Officer #1: General Dameron, we're approaching Jakku. The shuttle is in range.

    The Star Cruiser Organa blasts out of hyperspace above Jakku. Below it hovers an imperial shuttle. BB-8 who is rolling around the bridge sees the visual of the shuttle--he begins beebing crazily (unhappy beebs).

    Poe: Oh no. That's Kylo Ren's shuttle. Lock it in a tractor beam but do not pull it in. Whether its Ren or Mara Jade, I don't want anyone from that shuttle on my ship ... at least not yet. Open a channel.

    Officer #1: Yes sir.

    Poe: This is General Poe Dameron of Star Cruiser Organa. We received a distress call from your ship. The problem is your ship belongs to a certain Supreme Leader of the First Order. Identify yourself.

    From the intercom: (Static sounds in response along with an audible sigh and then a pause). General Dameron, this is Mara Jade Skywalker, resistance fighter, Jedi, wife of Luke Skywalker, aunt of Ben Solo, and--until recently--prisoner of the First Order. I need your help and you'll need mine. The First Order will soon track this shuttle. Please bring me aboard so you can destroy it....

    Poe: If you are the Mara Jade Skywalker who left the First Order to join Luke and the Resistance, you would know your request is highly against protocol, something I always follow. (A few eye-rolls from officers behind Poe) We must first verify your identity.

    From the intercom: Poe--I knew you as very young boy. You were probably too young to remember me. But you would remember that special tree that Luke and I brought to your family on Yavin 4. You loved that tree. (Poe looks shocked.) ... General Dameron ... your ship has been given the name of a dear, dear friend of mine.... How long has it been ... since she passed?

    Poe: .... I remember.... (To an officer) Can we get visual? (Officer nods affirmatively and Mara Jade Skywalker appears on the screen in front of Poe. Poe nods to himself, recognizing her. To Mara Jade) I remember you. You're supposed to be dead, destroyed by the Knights of Ren along with Luke's temple.... You know I can't bring you aboard, not yet. Not from that shuttle and not knowing your past. Land on Jakku and destroy it. We'll send a team down and make contact with you.

    From the intercom: I understand General Dameron. You learned from the very best--I miss Leia very much as I'm sure you do to. After I destroy this shuttle, I'll meet you at the settlement of Lor San Tekka--I know where it is and I learned it was destroyed while I was imprisoned. Who do you think transmitted information about Luke's whereabouts to Lor San Tekka? If you truly are the new General of the Resistance, you must know what I'm talking about.

    Poe: I'll meet you there.

    The Star Cruiser Organa releases the shuttle from its tractor beam. The shuttle plunges toward Jakku.

    Poe: Prepare a shuttle to the surface. I'm going to figure out exactly who this person is.

    Officer #2: General... It is highly against protocol for you to go down there... Plus, Mara Jade used to be a First Order officer, right?

    Officer #1: And wasn't she was trained by Supreme Leader Snoke before she met Luke Skywalker?

    Poe: Alright, alright. (Under his breath to himself) Since when have I ever followed protocol. (Turns to address his officers) Prepare my shuttle for the surface... I'll bring a full detail of troopers . . . heavy troopers. That might do the trick. (Officers look nervously at each other, still frightened at the notion of meeting Mara Jade) It'll be alright. I'm going to figure out exactly who this person is. Mara Jade was also a Jedi--maybe we'll find two of them today!
     
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    Excellent @JediJurist.Very intriguided about Mara jade and what she wants, and about Snokey being still alive too! :p
     
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    Thanks for reading! I've come this far, I might as well keep going!
     
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    Nice to see Mara Jade fan speculation out there. This is a 20-year tradition with this brand, fans coming along and insisting Mara plays a big part.

    I think some of us EU fans get so invested in what we consume we want to spread it like a virus.

    Rey's lineage has been established and I think the point of her origin is to sharply contrast from the "royalty" lineage of the last 9 movies.

    Also I think Luke's sexuality is purposely ambiguous, just as Mark Hamill has always contended and endorsed. It makes Luke a far-stronger character in doing so.

    I like fan theories, they are kinda fun to read, but I am very glad none of you have any real control over the creative direction of the brand. I am not sure some of you understand the characters well enough and many of you seem to think convoluted exposition is the only sign of quality in a story, when in fact, the simplest stories always work best. One of the reasons Episode IV is far and away the best film in the franchise is the exposition is very lean, straight forward, which allows immersion into the universe and a strong focus on character.

    I need to dig up the old Mara Jade discussions of 20-years ago, this seems like a haunted echo of fan theories spun decades ago.
     
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    No problem. A lot of good stuff there. :)
     
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    No disrespect, but I don see the need to be dismissive of someone just having a bit of fun and writing a story... This is a creative exercise, not a fully fledged script. Exposition can be easily resolved. Rough stories tend to have a lot of exposition. It simply shows things have been thought out and don’t come out of nowhere. Jeez I didn’t know you had to take a masters in script writing to publish fanfic in this forum...
     
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    Yeah I agree Kylocity. I don't get his line of thinking either. Way too black and white. It seems like there is a good deal of fans that think TLJ answered questions about Rey definitively. I've been seeing posts since TLJ stating over and over that Rey's story is done, but we still know so very little about her backstory. The filthy drunken junk traders dying in a paupers grave on Jakku don't explain the ship we saw flying away from toddler Rey in TFA. Rey very well may end up being a nobody but the story could easily explain she is a somebody.

    Much like how we knew so little about Luke before Empire, the little we now know about Rey could very easily be misdirection.

    I started writing these snippet what-if story-lines because of the rumors of Luke's wife being cast in XI were intriguing. It is all in fun. Plus I wanted to see if I could write a decent story that addresses a bunch of the many open ended issues from TFA and TLJ. To each their own.
     
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    I’m glad you’re positive. No fanfic is there to compete with the official story. It is just a vision and I’m happy you’re sharing yours.
     
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    “Mara” Pulls It All Together: Part VIII

    The scene cuts to a First Order docking station in the Unknown Regions of space. The handful of First Order star ships that had survived the nebula attack are docked. Smaller service ships scatter about the destroyers, repairing their badly damaged hulls. The camera pans down to Hux's massive SSD docked below the station, under repair. The scene cuts to Hux. He looks out a window inside the docking station, glaring angrily. He grinds his teeth while overseeing the repairs of his SSD. A team of three First Order Officers approaches from behind Hux.

    Officer #1: General Hux, repairs of the remaining fleet are 40 percent complete. We've recalled approximately two dozen destroyers from occupied systems to protect our current perimeter.

    Hux: Have we located the Supreme Leader?

    Officer #2
    : We have sir. Supreme Leader Kylo Ren is safe at the prison we established on Crate. We have limited contact due to a recent prison riot. The situation is now under control but the prison com systems are not yet fully operational. We should be able to make direct contact with the prison within the hour.

    Communications Officer: (from across the room) Sir.... We have an incoming transmission... It is from ... um ... the Supreme Leader....

    Hux: Ren? Already?

    Communications Officer: (The officer swivels around in his chair -- he has the look of shock on his face) Um... no sir....

    Just then, a large holographic image of a head appears in the middle of the room. It flickers and flashes. The image is very blurry at first. As it comes into focus, Hux and the three officers take a step back, stunned at what they see.

    The camera pans around the room from the back of the head to the front. It is Snoke. His face is even more decrepit an decayed than how we last saw it in TLJ. He appears even more wounded and skeletal, like he rose from the grave.

    Snoke: General Hux!

    Snoke's voice booms as he snarls Hux's name. Snoke is clearly enraged although he coughs and weezes has he talks.


    Hux's body suddenly becomes rigid. He is pulled slightly off his feet and across the room to hover face-to-face with the large image of Snoke's decayed head).

    Snoke: What has happened ... to my armada!? Where is the traitor Kylo Ren!?

    Hux: (Grabbing his throat. Choking and gasping for air as he talks) Sir.... Supreme Leader, sir. I ... I saw you're lifeless body.... I don't understand ....

    Snoke: I cannot ... be ... killed! Not by some broken child of Han Solo! It was Kylo Ren who attacked me. His illegitimate reign has come to an end. (Snoke releases Hux who falls to the ground catching his breath).

    Hux: Sir. The Resistance has grown strong under Ren's foolish leadership. The First Order still controls much of the known galaxy but our armada was largely destroyed in an ill-advised attack planned by Kylo Ren himself. He abandoned the fleet when he received word that his aunt, Mara Jade Skywalker, was being held captive at our detention facility on Crate. We are unable to reach him due to a recent prison riot, but we have confirmation that he is still there, stranded. His shuttle was taken by the person who claimed to be Skywalker's wife.

    Snoke: Kylo Ren will be no more. Finish your repairs General Hux and rally the remainder of your fleet on the far side of the third moon of Charoon. It is an uncharted planet in the Unknown Regions. I will send you the coordinates....

    ... Send a death squad to Crate.... Execute Order 99. Eliminate Kylo Ren.

    Hux: Yes Sir. What abut his Knights? They have become very powerful protectors of Kylo Ren. They can sense when he is in trouble.

    Snoke: I will handle the Knights of Ren myself. Now go, regain my trust and destroy the traitor Kylo Ren!


    Hux: Gladly, Supreme Leader.
     
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