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SPOILER Marvel's Star Wars Darth Vader #20

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Books & Comics + Legends' started by Kyle, May 12, 2016.

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    This week we begin a new arc in the Darth Vader series, End of Games. If you’ve followed Vader for the past year you know that the Dark Lord has been dealing with some awfully pesky cyborgs. As the arc’s title would hint, we appear to be at the beginning of the end for the cyborg adversaries. Even if you have been reading every issue, you may have some questions about the origin of the cyborgs and their creator, Cylo. After this first issue, I’m quite sure we will be getting all the answers concerning this particular batch of cyborgs. SPOILERS AHEAD…


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    Darth Vader has become custodian to the two droids, Bee Tee and Triple Zero, of the still missing Dr. Aphra. These two droids don’t just sit idly by taking hot oil baths, Vader has put them to work. The devious, robotic duo are doing a pretty good job helping out the Dark Lord as we rejoin them on the bridge of a Star Destroyer in transit to meet the Emperor. Vader is already planning to meet up with Inspector Thanoth after the Emperor, so I don’t think we should count on this next arc staying on one place. I think we are back to the star system hopping Vader we met in the first arc.

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    Well, now, that’s pretty cool. The Emperor is hanging out on what will eventually be the Executor. We’ve seen Death Star(s) under construction, but I don’t think we’ve seen a Super Star Destroyer in the midst of assembly. Looks like quite an undertaking. The Empire isn’t exactly licking their wounds after their defeat at the Death Star. Bee Tee states that, at this point, the Executor is Tagge’s new flagship. Of course we all know who eventually gets the Executor as their flagship, so to me that puts Tagge in the “days-are-numbered” category. For the time being, the man who calls every ship in the Imperial Fleet his flagship, Emperor Palpatine, awaits a meeting with his apprentice.

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    You want answers? Well, then you came to the right Super Star Destroyer. As soon as Vader makes his way into the Emperor’s mobile throne room the Sith Master barely shuts up. We learn some pretty interesting things about the Emperor’s view of himself. He speaks pretty bluntly about why the Sith have been hiding since their war with the Jedi. Palpatine seems to think of himself as the end result of generations of the no-more, no-less than two rule; and that because of that, he is the only one of the Sith who does not fear the Dark Side. There is some really crazy stuff in these Palpatine ramblings. I won’t spoil it here, but let’s just say the Sith’s relationship to the Force sounds a lot more complex than simply Dark or Light sides.

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    Over the past year of following this comic we’ve seen Vader slowly take his lightsaber to each of the cyborgs Palpatine commissioned through his mad scientist, Cylo. Well, Cylo built his first cyborg after a fateful battle between a Jedi Master and freshly recruited Sith Apprentice on a planet called Mustafar. That’s right, Cylo is responsible for saving Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker’s life. After that time, the Emperor was intrigued with Cylo’s abilities, but as his confidence was placed in the scientist, Cylo grew very arrogant. Instead of letting Cylo go, the Emperor manipulated him into trying to create cyborgs that would rival Vader’s abilities, but as we’ve seen, that failed. Cylo is now off the radar and after a tense discussion, Palpatine sends Vader out into the galaxy to track the scientist down.

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    Before Vader goes hunting for Cylo, he needs to follow up on a lead to Dr. Aphra via our old friend Inspector Thanoth. Thanoth is no one’s fool and he knows there is a great deal of risk in giving up his hand to Vader. My big complaint about this issue is the bizarre turn Thanoth took to put himself in this vulnerable position. The character always struck me as someone very intelligent, very analytical, and very aloof. I’m still scratching my head a little after a few reads. Perhaps the series’ writer, Kieron Gillen has characters that are better suited for this turning point arc and he wanted to tie-up the inspector’s story.

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    No love is lost between these two. To give Thanoth some credit, the inspector doesn’t change his cool disposition in the least as Vader holds the crimson blade to his neck. I imagine most folks during that time period of SW would be trembling or worse. Inspector Thanoth knows where Dr. Aphra is, but he has a few words for Vader first, as he is pretty sure he won’t have any words for anyone once he gives up Aphra’s location.

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    Thanoth is a true believer in the Empire and believes it is bigger than one emperor. I’ve been enjoying Claudia Gray’s excellent Star Wars novel, Bloodline, this past week. If you’re unfamiliar, it takes place six years before The Force Awakens, so there are some interesting insights of how a generation away from the Empire’s downfall view the Empire. There is a main character in the book who despised Palpatine/Vader, yet thinks the concept of an empire over a republic is a good one. Also, in last week’s Poe Dameron, we heard Captain Phasma scoff at a comparison made between the First Order and the Empire. Where I’m going with all of this is that Thanoth seems to be along that trajectory. The idea of empire is something greater than the Empire, and Thanoth feels Palpatine has placed himself in an ivory tower of sorts, above even the Empire itself. I’m loving the different mindsets of Imperial officers the Vader series has given us. This absolute devotee presents himself as a cold investigator, but once alone with Vader, opens up about his passion for the greater notion of empire.

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    It’s time for Darth Vader and his droid minions to go their separate ways. Bee Tee and Triple Zero will go track down Aphra from Thanoth’s lead and Vader is off to deal with Cylo. We find out that the droids are not going alone, but it should be interesting to see how they operate when left to their primary devices of torture and murder. I’m also intrigued by the promise of Vader’s one-man hunt in his TIE Advanced x 1.



    There is a short story after the conclusion of issue #20. It concerns the origin of Bee Tee and Triple Zero. Bee Tee discusses it to a droid mechanic while the mechanic is giving him a tune-up. Who knows if we’ll see more of these misadventures, but it was amusing enough.



    I’m not sure if I’ve already said this in an earlier review, but I’m quite over Cylo and these cyborgs. Vader is solid pretty much every issue. I suppose this new arc is Gillen trying to bring this cyborg issue full-circle, so I’ll try to contain my disappointment that yet again we will see Vader dealing with this repetitive problem. The revelations by Palpatine in the beginning of the issue make me hope we will be exploring Sith lore through his verbosity, but I’m sure it will be delivered in small doses. Maybe we’ll finally get some stories behind all those artifacts on Palpatine’s private ship we were teased in Lando. This is a good issue, and despite the unwelcome storyline of hunting down Cylo, I feel End of Games will offer us some of the good stuff we’ve come to expect from Darth Vader.

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    Great review! I agree that it is time that we say goodbye to Cylo and his cyborgs. I wonder whether it will also be the end of Dr Aphra's story.

    I was surprised to read that Thanoth knew that Vader used to be Anakin Skywalker and Luke was his son. I wonder who else knows.
     
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    That was pretty cool. I hate he's dead. I was beginning to like his character, especially in this issue, and then BAM! He's done...
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    Great review @Kyle! I really enjoyed this issue. I thought the exposition on the Sith in this issue was pretty solid. Anyone else get really sweaty when Thanoth referenced the Eternal Empire? I think there's more going on with that reference than meets the eye and might eventually even tie in to the Sequel trilogy. I have mused for some time that Snoke may be the canon version of the Immortal Emperor, Lord Valkorion, ruler of the Eternal Empire in the Old Republic continuity in legends. Valkorion formed a new Force-user order called the Knights of Zakuul to rise above the light and dark sides of the Force. The Knights of Zakuul were the enforcers of the Eternal Empire and could possibly be represented in the canon by the Knights of Ren.
     
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    Good job, @Kyle , as always.

    I hate the fact that Thanoth is dead and Cylo & Co. are alive. It's like they don't want to challenge Vader at all. Booo! I want cyber freaks gone for good. I want a version of Vader from Rebels dismantling them limb by limb. Yes, I began to hate them that much.

    That being said, Palpatine's verbal diarrhea was interesting. I'm glad we have confirmation that Cylo saved Anakin/Vader's life. And I enjoyed Triple Zero and BT's shenanigans. I think I have a bit of Vader fatigue. Hopefully, the new arc will prove me wrong.
     
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    Interesting, I didn't even think of a possible Old Republic connection with those comments. It's definitely fun to speculate on possible Legends connections.

    I have to say that I was a little disappointed with Thanoth's demise in this issue. I feel like the character still had a lot of potential. At least he got to have his final master detective moment when he revealed that he knew who Vader really was.

    I think you may be reading the wrong comic then ;). Lol, just kidding.
     
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    Definitely flew over my head, @Hard Case! Thank you for bringing that up. I thought there was an ominous, sort of Snoke-y connection there. Knights of Ren are certainly going to need one helluva back story and it would be great if Zakuul were that. The First Order seems to pride themselves as being the V 2.0 of the Empire. Perhaps the Knights of Ren fancy themselves that in terms of Dark Side users.
     
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    Great review, @Kyle. I'm gonna miss Thanoth, seeing him drop his final realization of everything, that was special. And the man believed in an ideal so much, he CHOSE death! I got a Grand Inquisitor vibe form that scene. Executor! Tagge isn't gonna make it, that's for sure. That's Vader's ship, baby. And the way Dooku was described, as a Proton Torpedo--brilliant. And referring to Maul, as a loss, does that mean from the Naboo fight, or from him returning as a criminal underground boss, and once again escaping, fighting against his old master with the Mandalorians, and now trying to destroy Vader and recruit Ezra in Rebels? What is the loss really allude to?! Did anyone pick up on what it meant when Palpatine said Cyclo's entrails were in Tarkin's workings and the Death Star? I didn't really get that. The mini-story also just confirmed some TOR era stuff, One battle-droid looked like the Sith Empire's Mark 1-

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    I loved seeing the Imperialized battle-droids once again, I hope we get better drawing for them to bring out their evolution and differences from B1 battle droids and commando droids.
     
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    Great review @Kyle ! I read this issue last night and been thinking about some of the points you just mentioned.

    Sounds like it. Especially since I feel like if Cylo falls, he will take Tagge down with him.

    And even if we are already tired with Cylo and his freaky cyborg squad, I guess it will fill pretty much the amount of time left for Vader to meet the Rebels again in Hoth.

    Agree. I wonder now how the Emperor will find out later in TESB that Luke is Anakin Skywalker's son. Maybe just putting two and two after the last name, like Vader did earlier in the comics.

    That is one of the things I consider this new canon has been doing in a really neat manner, is to present us the perspective of different characters regarding the organization brought by the Empire and the variations of government. We have seen both in "Bloodline" and "Lost Stars" as well as in "A New Dawn" how inside the Empire we have people who cherish the idea of an Empire as a good choice for governing the galaxy, though they might not agree entirely with the methods used by the Galactic Empire of Palpatine. Same as in Universal History. Not all the Empires were the same, and from a certain point of view can be considered as beneficial by some.

    And maybe make some mention about that holocron from Malachor we found out about in Rebels Season 2?

    Quoting Ahsoka: "There's always a bit of truth in legends." :D

    I have been wondering about that. Maybe Maul after Malachor tries to take on the Emperor, then Vader fights him, ends up pretty much beaten up in a bacta tank and gets his revenge in a band of rebels who stole the Death Star plans? Lol, just speculating.
     
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    Don't know if you guys heard, but it looks like Vader will be coming to an end in August :(.

    I guess the silver lining of this news is that we get to see a complete end, and the days of these drab cyborgs are numbered ;)
     
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    I'm late to the posting party, but at least I made it at all. First off, muy bueno on the review @Kyle. Second, I loved this issue. Third, I'm sick of forceless cyborgs and have been since the cough-factory wasted screen time during ROTS. Did I mention that I loved this issue? Best panel had nary a word in it, just two Sith Lords staring at each other in a moment of EPIC silence.

    I actually don't like that they've retconned rewritten what transpired in Palpatine's science lab.
    They must be intent on scrubbing any and all Plagueis connections from the saga. RIP 114D.

    I'm not a fan of Kylo Ren, or his self-made emo of club silver spooned, patricidal force sensitive punks. So I'll probably be in the minority when I rake Disney across the coals for skipping over Lord Darth Plagueis the Wise just so they can boost exposure to the MMO, but I digress. Anyways, the Infinite Empire is not to be mentioned lightly... where there is snoke, there is usually a lame Supreme Leader with no relation to a Skywalker smoke....

    As for the droids... I've enjoyed them... in a "if Threepio and R2 had stayed with Vader after Mustafar" kind of way.

    Vader has been the best of Marvel's Star Wars-bunch and I'm sad to see it end, even if the cyborg-war was getting a bit stale.
     
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    It seems that the story line with Cylo and his creations will end in Issue #25.
     
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    Actually the entire comic series will stop with Issue #25. :(
     
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    Loss of opportunity.

    Maul in Rebels, was everything Sidious could have hoped for with an Apprentice.
    Ironic. He was working for himself and not the Emperor, and still he helped the Empire.
     
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    I'm a bit behind, here. Great issue, plus 10 extra pages of Triple zero. Easily a 10/10. I'm going to miss this series, a lot.
    Also, some great posts in this thread.


    Wasn' t there a rumor recently about a Rogue One plot point involving a choice between killing Vader or getting the Death Star plans? What if Cylo escapes Vader's hunt, defects to the Rebellion, and shares info on Vader's weaknesses, general locations, etc? Just a thought.
     
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    I'd go bananas if we get to see Quinlan Vos in Rogue One, not so much if its that guy whose a cross between C3PO and the Death Star designer that Palpatine kept killing and cloning.
     
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