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SPECULATION Master Codebreaker Theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. McDiarmid

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    In the film in the Canto Bight resides man by the codename Master Codebreaker.

    Mysterious man, acted by Justin Theroux.

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    Master Codebreaker was only known by his title, and kept his original identity a secret. However, he once posted all of his personal information to a public node, encrypted by biohexacrypt, and anybody who uncovered the information was welcome to take his mantle. However, nobody was known to have get even close to decrypting it.

    This is a man that is so intelligent, and so secure in his power jet hiding his true identity .Something we alredy sough once, at Palpatine.

    Finn and Rose, guided by Maz Kanata are going to find him. Instead of him, they are "miracoulously" attached to "DJ".

    DJ is obviously an agent of Master Codebreaker.He is just in same cell of the jail where Finn and Rose are. He just like that steals an elite Liberty Yacht owned by a "major arms dealer" who sells arms to the First order, and to the Resistance to!

    This is Master Codebreaker at work.He sends DJ to spy and do his job for him,to in fact probe, than weaken and betray resistance.

    I think MC could be the main villain behind all of this. I think he organised rearming of the First Order, and to some extent the Resistance to, to maintain fight, and profit.

    I even do not claim he is Force sensitive,though he actually very well could be so, cloaked behind nice face like Palpatine. On the other side it will be cool if he is actually just an ordinary man more clever than anyone. He lives from War, and maintains the war, he is the boss playing game and manipulating with "Force sensitive" dogmatics.

    Now, when First Order became to much powerfull, ( formed around Snoke), Master Codebreaker decided Snoke is not needed anymore for his future plan to maintain war, because battle is decided.

    The First Order shuld be weakened and given to control of conflicting and easy to manipulate Kylo Ren and incompetent rodent Hux.

    What if MC is behind it all?

    What if, actually, a Snoke was an old Force sensitive cripple disposable dogmatic who was financed by MC?

    What if Rey's abandonment, was in fact superinteligent MC design in advance, to use Rey , as a Force sensitive, ready to execute Snoke when time comes?

    In the TFA Maz Kanata asks "Who's the girl? Than she puts the test on Rey-light saber.Now we know Maz Kanata knows Master Codebreaker.He has contact with her.
     
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    That scene makes me wonder one thing.

    How does Poe knows Maz Kanata ? She's Solo's friend not Poe's.
     
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    That would make us turn into "that" debate about "that masterpiece" asking myriad of questions just like for instance how a battleship Raddus spends fuel by cruising at constant speed by flying trough vacuum on space (this spending of fuel is core of the "drama"..commander we have 6 hours of fuel left and we are spending it by cruising by constant sublight speed trough vacuum of space) ...God help us.. Please let us leave this be forgotten to us, and left to "proffesional critics"which does not see such "details" anyway so they can actually talk about that without geting their hearts break( blessed are the poor in the spirit and mind).
     
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    How does Poe and Holdo never met on D'Quarr ? There are 100 people on this resistance and a handful number of officers ?

    Masterpiece ... :D

    There are plot holes on every scene.
     
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    Those are not just mistake holes this is basic ignorance. Hastily assembled scenes, coupled by basic ignorance used not just to lift film atmsphere but to justiffy main plot and drama--a battleships cruising at constant speed trough space and spends fuel.Once you propells spaceship in space it does not spend fuel anymore unless accelerates or breaks.They cruise and spent fuel and measure this fuel level like oceanic ships,
    Than those ships that lost fuel stay behind (loosing speed?)and bammm.
    aaaaargh,.

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    Your panning the scientific accuracy of a film that pretty much breaks every law of physics?

    Great argument.

    Funny how you had no issue with similar inaccuracies in the other films...
     
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    Yes but this is not small inacuracy .like sound heard in the space constantly troughout SW films(which is physicaly impossible) to rise atmosphere from scene to scene, this using of fuel is a physical riducluousness used as a central plot of chase that goes trough entire film.
    J.J. Abrams and RJ are treckers, Star Treck fans, and they know Trecks could not withstand this , do they in fact make ridiculing of Star Wars or simply believe SW fans can accept anything?
     
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    Eyy my Reylo titanic buddy is back!

    I wanted to meet the master codebreaker. He seemed like a smooth interesting dude.

    At least SW doesn't have Star Trek teleporters from new reboot. There'd be way more plot holes with them.
     
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    There is only one true MASTER code breaker

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    Hopefully we'll see him in episode 9.
     
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    This is an interesting possibility, McDiarmid.

    This makes me think of something else:

    At the end of TLJ,
    Kylo is considered "Supreme Leader," but, wouldn't it be interesting if during Episode IX he learns the First Order does not follow his orders, partially or at all?

    Instead, perhaps, they are secretly beholden to this potential mastermind "Codebreaker" character.

    This surely would further fuel Kylo's rage and set the stage for all sorts of strange twists, perhaps even him forsaking the First Order to form his own new Vader-inspired Sith-like Empire (which, of course, would be doomed to fail).
     
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    Add to the list that during the Starkiller assoult the Resistance has not Bombers at all.
    Because I think they should have used it, if they had some.
    We're also told that the X-Wings coming back are what's left of the entire Resistance fleet.

    Then TLJ opens.
    Right where TFA ends, they say.

    And: Bombers, A-wings etc..
    The booster on Poe's x-wing.

    Another one: who the hell told Rey about what happened in throne room in VI?
    And when?
    I've thought, that was something no one knew.
     
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    Tell me about using bombers without gravity ...
     
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    It's explained in the Visual Dictionary as is where the additional Capital Ships & there Fighter compliment come from.
    I.e the Resistance is organised along similar lines to the old Rebal Alliance with different cells in difrent parts of the galaxy.
     
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    You didn't get what I said.

    You can drop bombs in the vacuum, they won't drop anywhere, they will float around your ship.
     
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    This film takes place right after TFA. The Republic and Resistance is decimated. It's very likely Poe wouldn't know every officer.

    It's fine that people don't like the story choices, but these "plot holes" are non existent.
    Wait until you realize there's no sound in space. Does that ruin the entire series for you?
     
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    You mean he never been on D'Quarr or they have been rejoined by people across the galaxy ?

    She's an admiral, he's a commander ... I highly doubt they are rookies who just come in the resistance and they never been in the same war room ...

    Maybe I don't explain myself very well but this is very well understandable.

    We're talking about masterpiece, perfection, the best movie of decade. Something brilliant.
     
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    I understand you well, but your complaint here isn't reasonable. Poe doesn't need to personally know every officer in the Resistance. She wasn't part of the leadership.
     
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    First he looks at her, when the MF lands and it's pretty obvious that she's Finn friend.
    Then they're litteraly one next the other in the control room.
    And it's not that she's dressed as you may expect from a resistance officer so that he may think she's one of them (putting aside
    the previous scene).
    Finally he's among those who chears when the MF leaves.

    But I may undestand they passed on all of this to make us see the introducing scene.

    But what you say, about TLJ opening just where TFA ends, doesn't feet well
    with the idea that the Resistance at the beginning of the movie suddendly has
    the bombers, the a-wings etc...

    It's one or another.
    Or there was enough time for everything (introduction - then just let it offscreen - and bombers, a-wings etc... coming)
    Or there wasn't for none of them.

    It's an unforgivable plot hole? No.
    But cut the introducing scene or just make it different and it's more compelling.
    Can we agree on that?
     
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    True but hey no sound in space either.

    Honestly I figured the fuel was spent to keep ahead. Meaning when the pursuers adjust to intercept they are forced to maneuver. Maneuvering was the issue for fuel. But that might be me acting as apologist.
     
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