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Midi-chlorians and Bloodlines

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Yoda 2, Dec 7, 2015.

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    Force is in anyone in Star Wars universe. But only Force sensitive people can use force as they wish. That was never a questionable.
    But force sensitivity is something special, not common. It is special because it is not common.

    Kids still can imagine that they are force sensitive and that they can become Jedi. Midichlorians do not change that.

    Luke was a last hope because he was special.
     
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    Yoda and Ben didn't for see it but The Force did. The Force controlled the whole situation, maybe. Yoda and Ben did what the Force told them to do...
     
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    Eh? We're talking about the force being passed down genetically. I'm saying Yoda and Ben's characters were written to believe that Luke would have the same Force potential as Anakin.
     
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    But the Force knew it wasn't the power or ability of Luke's fighting that would over through the evil. It was the heart of Vader that would overcome the evil and see Luke as his beloved son. Luke is there only to get to Vader's heart so that Vader would kill the Emperor. No one could've seen that but the Force.
     
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    You're missing the point and on the evening that Plagueis has been revealed I haven't the time to deal with this.
     
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    I always understood the Midi-Chorlians to be separate from the Force, and it was simply the more you had then the greater chance you had of learning how to harness the Force. So, yes, everybody can access and be impacted by the Force, it's just that people with a higher count have a greater disposition. A bit like having a higher IQ. Someone with a higher IQ might be more able to grasp an intelligent concept, but it doesn't make someone with a lower IQ level incapable of grasping the same concept with a bit of effort.
     
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    I completely agree with you about midichlorians, and never had a problem with this concept. But like you said, midichlorians aren't the Force, they just allow a greater 'hearing' of the will of the Force- the more midichlorians the more in tune you are with the will of the Force, but the Force is still there without the midichlorians so having the Force 'will' an alternative way of connecting to people doesn't really cancel out what was, it just creates something that now is. So in the OT "my father has it, I have it, my sister has it" but in the NT "you have that power, too"- so the Force is moving beyond the flesh and blood, and into a more abstract mode of connection.

    Think of the first 6 movies as the "material side" of the equation and the last 6 movies as the "abstract side" of the equation. We might call the first 6 movies the "Newtonian" side of the coin, and the last 6 as the "Quantum" side of the coin. Or if you're religious, it's the "flesh" of the first 6 followed by the "spirit" of the last 6; the natural first, and then the spiritual. Old Testament into New Testament; yen to yang. It's where the story should naturally go. First by blood, then by spirit; by midichlorian then by awakening.
     
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    I must've missed something but everywhere I go people are talking about Plagueis. Why? What have I missed?
     
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    You missed the reveal that Jar Jar Binks is really Plageuis, who's really Snoke .
     
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    After I saw the picture and re read it again since I can partially read spanish, I get it...I was kidding about Har Jar .
     
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    Oh wow, what is that from? He actually is DP?

    Now that is possibly one of the coolest bits of news about the movie if true.
     
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    It is worth noting that in canon every living being has midichlorians in cells. Every person, plant or animal in Star Wars universe has midichlorians.
    So people without midichlorians do not exist in Star Wars.

    The more someone is stronger in the force, more midichlorians it has in cells.

    Also we do not know how midichlorians work hereditary. Maybe two person who are not force sensitive, can have force sensitive child ( child inherits all midichlorians from both parents ).
     
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    That's perfect!

    I don't mind the midi-chlorians... but I believe people hate this concept because it was introduced in the prequels; it existed long before the prequels were released.

    So I have to ask: If the midi-chlorian concept was introduced in the original trilogy... it would be so hated?
     
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    It will be after this movie.
     
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    I think midichlorians took it in a more sci-fi direction when they start yacking about numbers and counting. It wasn't necessary. It was beating the audience over the head with the idea that this kid's numbers were high so he was super special. Oh, and the Jesus conception/birth too. He's special because he's conceived/birthed like Jesus and his numbers are high.

    There's much more elegant ways of doing that. Which the OT already accomplished.
     
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    He clearly said that they are canon ( George idea ).
     
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    Yes it's the number counting thats annoying. It's like how many numbers do I have in my bank account? Does that make you better? In the grand scheme of the universe money is pointless. Maybe this is a bad analogy.
     
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    Midichlorians will always be canon, whether you like it or not .
     
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    They can be canon and still be debunked as being true within the universe / story.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 7, 2015, Original Post Date: Dec 7, 2015 ---
    This movie is called The Force Awakens after all...
     
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