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Moderators, Quit Merging Threads so Much

Discussion in 'Forum Feedback (The Cantina)' started by odmichael, Nov 28, 2015.

  1. odmichael

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    The Cantina is a brilliant set of Star Wars forums and I am blessed it is around. But I feel like every time I try to create a thread in here these days it gets merged.

    I am asking you moderators reconsider how often you merge threads for a couple of reasons.

    First, some threads being merged are on more specific topics topics than what you are placing them in. For example, the thread I made last night, "Why we should rejoice for the rumored ending of the TFA" was merged into "OFFICIAL REY DISCUSSION THREAD"
    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet....rey-discussion-thread.61/page-198#post-183346
    While the ending to the Force Awakens does involve Rey, this is not even what my thread was about. It was not about her character. It was really a thread about Luke and the Big 3 to begin with. So whoever merged my thread decided not to read my post in the first place.

    Secondly, when threads are merged like this, these giant threads are becoming confusing. Topics are changing left and right with no coherent balance.

    Lastly, I want to read intelligent posts and somehow all of the hard work I placed in my thread will now be completely overlooked. Shouldn't the forum-goers decide which threads are more important based on replies? It really grinds my gears when my thread is merged with nonsense that is unrelated to what I am trying to be talked about.


    This has happened several times to me more recently and I'm really getting irritated about it and hope wherever this thread ends up, a serious and intelligent discussion occurs to resolve this matter.
     
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  2. Trevor

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    Well @odimichael, i'm unaware of your last thread that was merged, but I will say this:

    Thread merging is driven by two factors;
    1. Thread title
    2. Thread content
    Now if a thread has a similar title to a pre-existing thread of the same type of title, I will examine the content of the thread initially and verify the content. If the content has followed the title and it is all similar to another thread, it will be merged without debate.

    If the like thread, has deviated from it's original title content, and no longer follows the original posters idea, then it may be merged with a thread of like content and not necessarily the same title content.

    Merging is something that is a necessity here as it is "housekeeping". You have to understand that if you (or anyone else) want to create a thread, you should type your proposed title or content idea into the search box and verify that it does not already exist before creating yours, otherwise it will eventually be merged with one that already exists.

    Please keep in mind that there are over 3500 conversations (threads), with over 175,000 individual posts, by over over 4000 members in this place, and there has to be some order.
     
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    Respectfully, I have to disagree. If threads are similar, they should not be merged. Only threads that have a direct relation to another thread should be merged. Just because threads have related characters, or story arcs, etc. does not mean they need to be merged. When thread content is more specific and threads become combined, threads become generic, unorganized, unreadable, and displeasing.

    3,500 conversations is not a lot of posts to be honest. I give you guys credit as moderators because you do a fine job of keeping up with and maintaining forums. But I actually think you are all doing too much.

    If a topic is worth being its own thread, the forum goers will show this because people will reply to the post. Nonsense will filter itself out because it won't be replied to by other forum goers. Irrelevant or disliked threads will be on page 3 or 4 of the forum in no time. However, merging threads together maintains and lingers irrelevant and extraneous topics that quite frankly shouldn't belong on the front page.

    For example, I knew the thread I create might last a few days at the top of the forum. But I knew it wouldn't be there for a very long time.

    Going along with thread merging, as an example, having a generic "OFFICIAL REY DISCUSSION THREAD" is frustrating. There are almost 200 pages of replies and most of it is nonsense that really does not belong on the front page of the forum. Most of the information in that thread, whether new or old, is irrelevant and not even worth reading. The reality is there are a bunch of things that could involve Rey and they all deserve their respectful threads and if people don't want to talk about them, they will run off the front page of the forum.

    I get that by merging topics into generic threads it allows for many different open discussions on the front page of the forum. However, most of those discussions have since become irrelevant and really don't belong on the front page to begin with.
     
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    If content deserves it's own thread (if I have anything to do with it), then it will remain, but if the thread has strayed into different territory and has become generic or related primarily to another pre-existing threads content, then it will be merged. As I said before, I will typically read through a thread before making that decision.

    I do understand the point that you are making, and will actually have that conversation with everyone that has the power to merge and I will make this point, but you again have to understand that if a newly created thread isn't original and mirrors others or has gone off course it will be merged. As the originator of the thread (let's take you for example) and you want to have a discussion, then it is primarily up to you to have that discussion and keep the thread on course.

    Staff will occasionally step in and attempt to nudge the conversation back on track, but it is your conversation to maintain. Many creators will create threads just for the credit of creating a thread or getting points for poll votes and will never return to the thread again and when it gets generic then it is merged regardless of original post.

    Again, If your thread topic is original and has enough weight to deserve it's own thread then it will remain, otherwise if it is a rehash of another thread or has a title that is only worded differently than another then it gets merged.
     
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