Mortis is Canon, thoughts?

Ha, I was reading the opening post, thinking, "Crap, if he hated the Mortis arc, he's going to fall off his chair when he finally sees the Yoda arc in Season 6.... !

 

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Well, I liked the Mortis arc. It showed some parallels of the entire saga(I like to comment these parallels).

Father = Anakin;
Daughter = Light Side;
Son = Dark Side.

Anakin fell to the dark side and helped Palpatine to destroy the Jedi Order, eliminating the Jedi(Light Side).
(Mortis Arc): The Son killed his sister and brought chaos to the Mortis Planet, unbalancing it.
25 years late, Anakin redeemed himself and sacrificed himself to kill Palpatine(Both were killed: Dark Side) and brought the balance to the force.
(Mortis Arc): The Father sacrificed himself to kill his Son and everything in the planet started to ruin.

Anakin's fate always was this. He should destroy the light and then destroy the dark, to bring the balance to the force.

But here the interesting fact(I just realized yesterday and posted in another thread): After the Father was killed, the planet was destroyed. What if after that Anakin brought balance, the force has been "destroyed" or even "slept"?

 

Hm, interesting concept. I'm not so sure I like that path though, nor do I think they'll go that way in the movie. But what if by bringing balance to the Force, the light side and dark side were no longer sundered from each other, and thus joined into an overall "Gray Force"? Or at least close enough to not be distinguishable?

Perhaps the awakening is the light and dark sides growing apart from the balance due to some traumatic event? I dunno, just throwing some thoughts out there as well.

 

@John Crichton that's a good thought.

 

I liked this episode to showed the future held secrets we did not know.

 

They aren't. By the end of the story arc they are dead. The son killed the father and with the father's death the son lost his immortality. The dumb ass then blamed the father for condemning him. Way to shirk responsibility for his actions there.

so you dont have to worry about it. there was more magic and wonder in the universe in the past but now its dead!

there is the enigmatic priestess(es) but she doesnt seem to get involved unless there is a powerful force user on the cusp of being worthy of transcending the living force to become one with the cosmic force. maybe luke is at that level in Force Awakens. Maybe not. you dont have to look at it as anthropomorphic gods. Think it more like its the character's perceiving these entities as such because its the only way we can comprehend them in our limited spiritual evolution. The priestess(es) and the father, son, and daughter are ideas given a simple form so the characters are able to interact with them.

 

To me it's just what the vision on the Dagobah cave was like. Do we really think that stairs and a man-made tunnel actually were made by Yoda or someone else? But to Luke and the audience, it was very much real. The reason I think it was so long was because you have 3 of the war's most powerful Jedi, prime-and-still-growing Anakin, much-better-than-AOTC-me Obi-Wan, and the-Chosen-One's-student Ahsoka. The concentration of this much power, and with the guiding presence of Midichlorians (they move with the flow and guide the Force, they AREN'T THE FORCE) allows for the Visions on Mortis to be real, but not truly. As for why Luke;s was so small? Dude, this guy until a few days ago struggled with his immense power to force pull a lightsaber out of ice, needing a great deal of concentration. he grew fast, but not that fast

 

I don't get why the solution to the whole ordeal was the Father killing himself, which apparently took away the Son's power. Didn't this whole thing start because the Father was dying and needed a replacement* to keep his children controlled? Did we not see the Son trying to kill the Father throughout the whole arc? So, if the Son had succeeded, he would render himself powerless and the potential threat that he posed would be nullified.

I agree with what others have stated, that this trinity were just three very powerful beings (which happened to be related) who left the galaxy (dimension?) They may have felt like some kind of force gods and believed that they played an integral role to the balance of the force, but that was just their belief. Doesn't make them legit.
I don't know what race they are, where the rest of them are, or how they got a 2,000 year old jedi distress call, and I don't care. As long as they're gone and don't really have any role in the Force's existence.

I don't really get why this arc exists. What does it tell us? Nothing. It just gave us more questions on an already shaky subject that many of us wish they would just leave alone. It even adds more confusion to the whole Living/Cosmic force thing (to me, anyways.)
Don't get me wrong, there were some cool scenes, like dark Ahsoka and dopple-Shmi, but overall it made more of a mess of some things. The lost time ending didn't help, either.

I'm gonna go take an Advil, now.





*BTW, he said that only the chosen one can keep the Son and Daughter under control. So that means that he, the Father is also the/a chosen one? Very confusing.

 

I watched this arc for the first time last night. And.. I will have to agree with just about everything you've said. It's sole purpose seems to be an opportunity for Filoni to play around with a lot of "What ifs" and to that extent it does a great job.
Mortis, as a character, is very interesting. It may be the first and only time in the new star wars canon that a dedicated dark sider has a true hatred for the Sith. His strange relationship with his sister borders on incest. This character had a lot of potential as a prequel movie villian, even if his appearance is a total rip-off of Quan Chi.
I do find it contrived that for a place that supposedly amplifies Force power that only Anakin appears to affected by this boost, and even then it's not by much. The idea that Anakin would not be able to pull a superman and would still require a speeder is rather lame, especially in light of Dooku have shown some limited flight capability in other material.
I was also a bit dismayed, regarding the what-ifs, that it did not make any visual reference to Luke Skywalker in Anakin's vision.

 

Sounds like you are describing what is likely to be followed up, rather than canonicity.

I agree. Some things are artistic interpretations. The anatomical features are clear exaggerated. So when newbie ezra force pushes for the first time, It is cannon that it occurred, but not necessarily to the exaggerated degree as shown.

 

I'm on the fence about the Mortis arc. I liked it for it's allegorical quality, and the fact that Anakin goes through a condensed version of his whole arc (awakening to the force, falling to the dark side and finally redemption). That said, I think the arc is a tad too out-there , even for a universe in which the Force plays a role. I can't imagine Mortis getting explored any further expect by fanboys like us on badass message boards

Even though I enjoyed TCW overall, the Mortis arc is a perfect example of my biggest criticism of the entire show: the series' uneven tone. They switch back in forth between some very heavy arcs that demonstrate the futility of war (like the Umbara arc--which made me wonder why anyone that said that this is just a kid's show) and the ones clearly made for kids (any that featured Jar Jar, younglings, droids or *ugggghhhhh* "Stinky"). It's okay to make a cartoon for kids with some heavy adult themes weaved in, but TCW went from extreme to extreme too often. I'll wager that your average 7-year-old would skip Mortis episodes just as fast as most of us would Jar Jar episodes.

 

and he said that he was no good at telling stories. lol. ...then again he did entertain the ewoks. this story is fresh to me. i just watched it last night. they never of course refer to themselves as Gods, they ARE the force itself. and yet anakin was supposed to become part of the Q continuum? something like that...but then an episode latter they dont mention it like you think they would to the jedi council. maybe they talk about it latter i dont know yet. we shall see.

 

I liked mortis and yes it is canon.

 

Anakin being told to stay on Mortis to take Father's place is a metaphor for the Jedi telling him to let go of his attachments. That Anakin decided to leave Mortis is a metaphor for him holding on to his attachments.

 

Better get used to that Mortis arc, it's about to ramp up in Rebels too! Guess who the Grand Inquisitor was???

Edit: on Jedi Council last night - Freddie Prinze Jr. admitted that the Grand inquisitor IS someone from the Clone Wars, and it will be revealed.

 

I'm thinking that the Inquisitors are a cult that worships Son and that the Grand Inquisitor tattood himself to match his god.

 

Lol these are actually my two favorite arcs from TCW. Others included Cad Bane arc, Darth Maul arc, and a few more.

 

My first reaction was , "At last, the whole light side/dark side thing makes sense!" Then, I read that Mortis is a vision and I was disappointed.

The narrator says that Mortis sent out a signal that hadn't been used in "over 2000 years." Since the TPM novelization said that the Sith "came into being almost two thousand years ago," I was hoping that Mortis was connected to the origin of the Sith.

 

Didn't someone at Lucasfilm say that the Inquisitor was seen in Clone Wars, but we just didn't know it? I'm guessing that means he's The Son... but that's a little weird, isn't it? The embodiment of the Dark Side works for Darth Vader for a salary and benefits?

Anyway, I absolutely hated the Mortis arc, to be honest. While it makes sense for Yoda to have one of those hyper-meta Force-related arcs, I really don't think it fits Star Wars. Felt very much like the Expanded Universe at its very worst.