SPECULATION My original TFA Review. WIP

Kylo Ren = Vador
Rey = Anakin
Snoke = Palpatine
Luke = Hope
Lor San Tekka = Obi Wan Kenobi.
BB8 = R2D2
StarKiller Base = Death Star
Han Solo : The imaginary dad Anakin had when he was a child ( he was born from the Force ).


There are two stories in TFA, the one for the audience, the one for the future plot to come. I won't discuss much the one for the audience, everybody saw it. But I will try to see things for what I think is the plot to come :

This is the story of the redemption of Anakin Skywalker also known as Darth Vader. This happens during the OT.


This will begin to make things right ...

What people saw :

The audience has quickly his attention being pulled away from what is happening. There's a old man, he's talking of Luke Skywalker, a map, a droid ( how familiar , it's like having a refreshing drink ...
Something is coming, the First Order, there's noise, laser shots, a XWing, it's war, the audience is back in his old good Universe of Star Wars.
Suddenly a defected Storm Trooper feels bad, he has to kill people, he's dazzled, disturbed, changed. Kylo Ren's ship is landing ...

What TFA was about :

Vader is landing on Jakku ( Evil ), he has reached his summum of evil, he's powerful, unstoppable.
He kills an old man, ordered to kill all the villagers, he can hold a laser shot ! He can't be that evil, he has reached his prime.

Edit : LST is Obi Wan Kenobi in Vader's view during ep IV. It's the start of the redemption. If ou strike me down I will become more powerful than you ever imagine. That's why Kenobi talked to Rey in the Force Vision ( see later ).

Look how old you became ... said Vader to Kenobi
Something far worse has happened to you
You cannot deny what is your family ( The jedis )
I will show you the dark side.
Vader killed Kenobi.

This scene is what Vader was in the Force when he killed Kenobi in Ep IV. At the moment, he killed Kenobi, a spark has grown in his mind. The awakening.

The map to Skywalker is in fact both the map to Hope ( Luke is Anakin's way to the light in that movie and in his redemption - and hope has vanished when Vader hitted Jakku - and both the map to Anakin Skywaler, the forgotten jedi Vader destroyed by Vader.

What people saw :

Abrams did shot early, he shot family first. The audience is already inducted to a family thing, the droid has escaped, the resistance pilot ( the white symbol ) is taken prisonner and Kylo Ren is the son of someone known and who knows the Old Man.
The droid with the map to Luke is on the run. Man, this movie is fast ... Action everywhere ... We're now in a First Order Destroyer, the audience is still following the action. Interesting ...

What TFA was about :

Vader saw the awakening, cleary, he felt it ... He just didn't care about it , he thought he was too powerful to really worry about. that ridiculous white thing. As he reached the ground of Evil on Jakku something has born from the pure darkness, a ... Rey of Light.
In Vader's world, This Light was once called Anakin.

Rey is an orphant in a fallen empire ship, she's in a corridor, it's so big, it's a tunnel and the light is on the other side. Visions you have when you die or at birth.

The Force has awakened. The journey of the redemption of Anakin Skywalker has began.

( More to come ).

 

I've just mindblowned myself.

The final scene is the Dagobah event from ESB when Luke first time met Vader in the cave under the tree. For Luke, it is Hell, pure darkness, he's at the moment when he sees Vader in ESB in the cave.

But we are in Rey's vision. Rey is the soul of Anakin coming back from Hell ( Jakku ) 19 years after Vader consumed Anakin and is now asking his help to Luke and for her for where she's coming back, the cave is pure bliss, it's like an island on the ocean ...

Son, please teach me back how is this to be a jedi.

TFA begins when Vader killed Kenobi on ep IV and finish in Dagobah during ep V.

It's the fullfilment through the Force of the prophecy of the Chosen One.

 

In this story, this is Rey who's the redemption.

There's something higher.

There's a place in the galaxy, only the chosen has access. When this place is at peace, the force is in balance. TFA is the story of that place during the OT.

 

You'll see that in time.

 

I'm almost sure this trilogy is happening during ep IV to VI. I'll be back with more clues, I'm still working on it, I discover things every scene with this theory.

 

No, in my theory, TFA is happening during ep IV in some kind of chosen one's world. Rey is the process that lead to Anakin's redemption. She's born from the pure darkness in Vader from Kenobi's death. If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine.

The real pitch is : There is a place in the galaxy that only one can see, the chosen one. When this place is at peace, the Force is in balance. This is the story of this place.

If you look closely, TFA is happening during ep IV and that's why they look alike. Events are taking place and the story of "the place" change during Vader's journey to redemption.

TFA starts about with Ep IV. There is a droid ( and it explains why R2 came out from nowhere at the end ) who has the map to Skywalker. Map to Luke or Anakin ? It's memories lost.

Rey who is her light side coming out 19 years of darkness [ 19 is the time between Anakin's fall and ep IV and Kylo Ren is 30 which leads to Anakin leaving Tattoine and the start of the fear to lose his mom ] is the process in Anakin's mind who lead him to fullfill the prophecy.

The prequels were about the journey of Anakin to Vader. The sequels are the journey of Vader to Anakin. The prophecy.

Another example :

The scene where Kylo and Rey fight is in Ep IV, in the death star's trench when Vader can kill Luke ... He struggles to shoot.

In "the place", Rey and Ren were fighting to take the decision. But the chosen one felt something : The Force is strong in this one. And Luke used the Force. Kylo said : You need a teacher, I can show you the way to the Force ( he was speaking to Luke ).
Rey felt the Force when Luke used it. That is the moment, the decision was changing. Vader's struggle to shoot Luke. And Rey prevailed in the fight Vs Kylo, that is the point of this.

[ When Rey said The Force by sniffing it like it was a deep breath, it's not she suddenly uses the Force out of nowhere, it's Luke using the Force and Rey finally feeling it back again after so much time of darkness ]

Vador chosed no to shoot at Luke, it was deliberate, he was already on the path to redemption. The spark ( Rey ) born from the darkness of Obi Wan's death has grown to hope. A new hope. Because after all these years, in this trench, Vader felt something like love, peace ... A presence he's not felt for a long time.
Another tip, in this trench, Anakin saw Artoo in the ship. And this at the very moment that R2 awoke from nowhere. He was no more the droid, he was artoo again. And the long gone part of Anakin ( Rey ) is Artoo's buddy and in the place, Rey and R2 started to team up at that moment.

And it ends with the Dagobah scene, it's powerful.

This theory explain every scene of the movie. Han Solo is the imaginary dad of Luke too ...
That freighter's captain he was thinking his dad was until he met Obi Wan ]. But it's not that relevant to the whole plot.

In TFA, you have

Obi Wan's death
The moment when Luke founds the LightSaber
Obi Wan mindtricks.
The fight in the trenches
Maybe Leia's interrogatory ( Work on progress on that one )
And the Dagobah's cave.

And If my theory is good it explains the force tree in Acht To because indeed there's a force tree in Dagobah.

 

If Kenobi is LST.

We have this part :

Look how old you become ( Vader didn't see Kenobi for 19 years )
Something far worse has happened to you ( my old padawan )

I know where you come from before you called yourself Kylo Ren ( The light side, the jedi order, family ).
And Vader striked Kenobi, he reached his prime of power stopping lasers but it creates something in that pure darkness madness, an awakening.

It is well stated in the movie that the awakening took place in Kylo Ren. It's the spark created by Kenobi's death that will become a Rey of light.

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You got it !

Maybe that's why they needed Abrams to do this.

I will update the theory but the whole movie is explained and believe me it's more than brillant.

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Now that we have the basis, let's take a look at the end scene with a statement.

Luke is hope in this movie ( A new hope ). At the start of the movie, it was Vader's Hell, Luke has vanished, all hope was gone ... And then the awakening.

First thing is that R2 is R2 again, he's no more the droid who had the map to Skywalker ( Anakin and Luke ). He's Rey's buddy again, an asset to Redemption.
Rey is coming from scratch of darkness to Hope


We have Rey climbing a thousand of steps ( The Jedi steps ) to get back to the jedi path, the hope is real, the place is magnificient and then she met Hope : Luke Skywalker and they both have this strange face.

If my theory is right it's the Dagobah's cave in EP V.

Luke is taking the opposite way as Rey, he's going down to a dark cave. And there for the first time, he met Vader in a pure moment of darkness.

It's light and dark meeting, Luke has to climb down a bit and for him it's pure nightmare and Rey had to climb up thousand of steps. When you come from darkness, this is pure bliss, an island in the ocean.

The point of the scene is that Vader found Luke in this cave and it was a call to help. From Luke's side it was OMG Vader is here but from Rey's side it's son ... Teach me how to be a jedi again ... Show me the way to redemption.

 

This thread can seems a little messy but you know, ideas are coming with the theory ...

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But this is what happend during the OT !

I can't wait to see the face of people when Luke is gonna attack Rey.

The end of ep VII is that scene.




It's the kind of signal of good you can send when you are really, really dark

BTW, awkwardly, it looks a lot like Rey in the helmet.

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I think Finn is the trust Vader has in the empire.

 

Here is the Kylo Ren / Rey fight in my theory.

This is the scene from reality.

This moment is key. Because when Luke used the Force, it brings something in Vader's world. Rey was feeling not her own Force but the Force called by Luke. She feels the Force again, that feeling she didn't felt for a long time - I sense something, a presence I haven't felt for a long time.


And that is that feeling of the Force that it is shown at this moment in TFA and the graphical hints of the trench are obvious.

the lines : The Force is strong with him can easily match, You need a teacher, I can show you the way to the Force. Vader is struggling.

Take a loot at it ... Watch that scene like if Rey was feeling Luke's call to the Force. It's amazing.

We can ever see the struggle by having Vader's saber in Rey'eyes and Anakin's one in Kylo Ren's ones.

The point of that scene is that is not Rey who used her Force but the Force she felt from Luke. And then Anakin beats out the blast out of Vader. Of course, he destroyed him, he's Anakin Skywalker, he's no joke.

That means Anakin won Vador in those trenches and that he deliberately didn't shoot at Luke. The redemption of Vador is in way.

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This is the moment Rey is feeling the Force call by Luke in the trench.

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The Force Vision scene :

Obviously it takes place when Obi Wan gives Luke the saber he has ... for 19 years.

When Luke lighted it, it brings memories in the Force.

Once again, it's quite clear. There's a lightsaber sound and the saber is just in Rey's hands. It's the sound of Luke lightning it.

Memory comes back. He first sees fate ( Bespin ). Then Anakin on Mustafar and the killing of the younglings. Anakin has became Kylo Ren and Rey is exiled on the planet of evil and the ship is going into darkness. Then she sees the battle of the trenches. Her next fight for the fate of the galaxy.

Maz is some kind of Hades Cerberus. She tries to show Rey the way of hope : Luke Skywalker.

Oh and you oviously hear Obi Wan because he's with Luke at the moment.

Notice how the two boxes look similar.

Edit : The Clan Leader is Nate Gunn Rae.

 

Another strong proof that ANH and TFA are tied is theses scenes.

Everybody always wandered why she did this ? From where ? She was just receiving Obi Wan move in the Force. 3 times.

The two universes are concomitting with the Force.

 

It's a magical trick but once you can locate the 3 mind tricks and explain every weird part of the movie, it's worth the read.