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MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS ON TFA

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by FeniX-Minerva, Dec 18, 2015.

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Did you enjoy the film?

  1. Yes! And it was better/on par with the OT.

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  2. Yes, but it's not as good as the OT.

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  3. It's alright. It's a hell lot better than the PT, though.

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. It's ok, but I enjoyed the PT more.

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    16.7%
  5. No, but it's not the worst movie I've seen.

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  6. Not really, but it's at least better than the prequels!

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  7. It's worse than the prequels!!!

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  8. Meh.

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  1. FeniX-Minerva

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    So I just saw TFA, and I gotta be honest, it kinda felt underwhelming. Now before I continue, let me clarify that TFA is NOT a terrible movie. There was clearly alot of effort put into this, and I did had fun with the film. However there were things that somewhat irked me. If you enjoyed the film, if you thought it was the best movie you've ever seen, I have nothing against that. In fact, maybe it will get better with age (after all, this is only the first part of a trilogy). With all that said, here's my (amateur :p) review:

    THE GOOD:

    The action was spot on! It was quick, tense, and a hell of a ride. I was also genuinely surprised that there was not alot of shaky cam in this film. So JJ, thank you for having a steady hand! The acting and writing, I thought, was excellent. So much good humor and one-liners, and it was great that they didn't abuse classic lines, which is an annoying trope that Star Wars always falls into. The atmosphere was top-notch. When we see Rey for the first time, there was little to NO dialogue. Instead, all we get is well crafted world-building. From the scavenging of a star-destroyer, to even when she was preparing her food. In a way, it felt like I was watching an art film.

    Speaking of Rey, I enjoyed her character. It was really fleshed out (to an extent) and she was quite likable. Finn was also really likable. Admittedly, he didn't do too much heroric stuff, but he was still enjoyable to watch. Poe Dameron was freaking awesome and hilarious, and so was BB8. Kylo Ren was a complete badass! I will admit that my brother was kinda right that he resembles closely to Avatar's Zuko (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuko), but he was still an intriguing villian to watch. I'm also glad they kept him alive for the upcoming sequels.

    And then there's Han Solo: Imo, he is the BEST example on how to do "rhyming" in the best way possible. He acts as the Obi-Wan to the story, with some notable exceptions (exp: Obi gives Luke a lightsaber, Han gives Rey a gun).

    And yeah, the sound-effects were sick! No arguing with that! :D

    THE MEH/BAD:

    This is the part were I get all "controversial" and blast. First, let's talk about something I'm pretty sure EVERYONE will agree with me: CAPTAIN PHASMA WAS A COMPLETE JOKE!!1! People complained that General Grievous was a lame villian, but at least he did something. Phasma did not fire a. single. god. damn. shot! And she died pathetically (Boba died pathetically as well, but at least he had a brief moment to shine). I know her design was slick, but if they couldn't figure out how to incorporate her into the story, they might as well remove her entirely. I was genuinely surprised that they kept Hux alive, because I gonna be honest, he didn't do it for me. Starkiller base felt more like a character compared to him. In fact, they should've kept the Starkiller alive and killed off the general instead.

    Speaking of which, the base shouldn't been destroyed. Imo, it ruined the threat level of this weapon, especially since it's supposed to be more powerful than the Death Star. It would've been better if they kept that thing going for the entire trilogy, as it will add a sense of constant dread. It will also make the planet's explosion at the end much more impactful.

    There was also a lack of details about the setting. I know alot people say that not everything should be spilled out, but when it came to things like The New Republic, and the rise of the First Order, I felt like I need to read a goddamn book to get a bigger picture. For some fans, I'm pretty sure they don't mind, but you got to remember that there are many people out there who don't have the money and/or time to be invested in the Star Wars lore (Isn't that one of the reasons why Disney needed to clean up the EU?). I also felt like the film had certain scenes deleted, like as if we are not getting the bigger picture (call me crazy, but I demand a special edition version when it comes out to retail).

    Lastly, and this is going to sound like a complete blasphemy even to me, is that the score didn't sound that memorable.

    Now granted, it was not awful (Hell, it's still better than most orchestra these days), but I don't think I'll be humming it as much as I do with the Imperial March theme. Even the prequels had some memorable scores.

    There are alot more flaws I want to mention, but I don't want to be too negative. Besides, I'm sooo freaking tired right now.

    FINAL THOUGHTS:

    I think one of the reasons why the prequels failed is because they over-explained things, which resulted with too many retconning. This movie's problem, however, is that it played it a bit TOO safe, were it didn't feel like it expanded the story at all. I get why they did it, they want to get back the fans, but what they ended up doing was making something "by the book" basic. Look at it like this: The OT was like sending an astronaut to the Moon for the first time. It's risky as hell, and it could've failed. But it pulled through, which made it a historic landmark for Human progress. The PT was like sending a colony to Mars straightaway, but the plans were miscalculated and flawed. This results to a fatal accident that cost so many lives, which in turn left so many scars to alot of people. TFA is like sending an astronaut back into space for a short while, and it help people to coup with the trauma. However, there is no significant progress being made, especially compared to the last project. Like I said, this movie is not bad, and there were some great scenes, but it really needed to "up its game" (Like Donald Trump, without the insane proposals). I will say this though: I think I need to watch the movie again to grasp some things I missed, which in some ways, succeeded on having rewatchability.

    Feel free to agree or disagree with my review. If I made an error on some of these criticisms (like forgetting some story bits or simply pronunciation mistakes), don't hesitate to correct me. All I ask is that you respect each other's opinions. Thanks for reading and may the Force be with you. :)



    PS: Snoke was a huge Vhlor! :eek:
     
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    I agree with your review 100%. The music was...not there. There was no "Duel of the Fates" or "Imperial March", just reused old themes and played in a slightly different way. I am sure the more I watch the film, I will like it. It made me want so much more, which I know is what it should do. But Captain Phasma, what the hell was that?! And, I don't know if Han is really dead, or if him falling into the mist with no body to recover leaves the door open for a comeback, or if he really is gone. And, would it have killed them to have Luke say....SOMETHING!! I was wondering for a second if he really was going to say "my baby girl".
     
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    Phasma dies?

    You made an assumption there but it's easy to do. The last you see of her is when Han and Finn talk about throwing her in a compactor. That is it.

    I think they made a mistake not showing the baddies jetting off before the planet blows. Even if it was a quick shot like Vader spinning out in ANH.

    Gwendoline Christie has been confirmed as coming back for ep8 so you'll be seeing more of her in the new trilogy.
     
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    "coming back so you'll be seeing her in the new trilogy." fixed for you
     
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    You know, I think the reason why I was disappointed is because I was spoiled about a certain death scene.

    While I still believe the movie is flawed, I think I should give it an another chance. :)
     
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    I thought the soundtrack was great. I prefer it to any of the prequel ones.

    Honestly, Rey's Theme might be my new favourite piece of Star Wars music after Yoda and The Force from ESB. It's been stuck in my head since I saw the film and have caught myself humming it a lot since.
     
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    Overall, I'd say it's the on par with the OT films (except for TESB, which is the runaway best flick in the franchise). I can't help but wonder how good the OT would have been if the internet had been around back then. Knowing beforehand that Han was gonna meet his maker took a little bit away from the film to me.

    Imagine, if you can, seeing this film with zero influence (from fan theories to leaked plots, etc.). Would you have enjoyed the movie a bit more by not having an idea of Han's demise beforehand? I would have.

    I also think that they could have left out the dialogue early in the movie that let the cat out of the bag about Kylo being Han and Leia's son. They could have just not said anything whatsoever, and when Han goes out onto the catwalk and yells, "Ben!" at him we all would have figured it out. It didn't need to be explained to us.

    I've read reviews that were critical of how the events leading up to TFA were glossed over very quickly, but I also believe that we will learn more backstory in Ep. VIII. I think (rather I hope) that this was done by design. If they explain everything in VII there wouldn't be near enough questions leading up to VIII.

    Overall, the new cast did a fantastic job. Rey, Kylo, Poe and Finn were excellent. Adam Driver was phenomenal. And BB-8 was a great addition.

    This movie should have been 3 hours!!! We could have gotten answers to things such as...

    How did Poe get back into an X-Wing after crashing on Jakku?
    How did Han and Chewie end up driving the space freighter, and by blind luck stumble upon the Falcon?
    How did the lightsaber come into Maz's possession?


    We also could have possibly delved into a more clear awakening in Rey's force abilities (dreams, a preview of unexplained force-related powers she exhibits that she can't explain, etc.)

    The Knights of Ren were mentioned, but it would have been nice (assuming they are still around) to see them in action, even if it's just a teaser for more bad things to come in VIII and / or IV.

    Hux was great in his Hitler role. Total madman. They dropped the ball on any sort of character development on Phasma. But we'll see if her storyline can be revived in VIII.

    I loved the vulnerability and madness in Kylo. His force ability is extremely raw and aggressive, yet he was also capable of having damage inflicted upon him by non-force users. I liked that we didn't see an all-powerful version of a dark side user who is virtually bulletproof. I'm sure in VII we will see a much more powerful Kylo since Snoke will now "complete his training".

    I have no problem with Rey laying down an ass-whupping on Kylo. He was injured and ripe for the picking. Regarding the scene with her back and the edge of the cliff with her and Kylo crossing sabers up close... I'd have loved to have seen Rey closing her eyes and hearing Maz "it's calling to you. let it in." and THEN have her turn the tables on him. It would have been a perfect explanation to her immediate improvement of skills. Just letting it in and letting it guide her.

    Naturally, since I saw the OT's in the theater as a kid, I'd have loved to have seen Luke for more than 30 seconds.

    In conclusion, it's nice (after 30 years) to actually see a Star Wars movie in which I CARED for the characters. A huge thumbs up from me.
     
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    It is hard to weigh one film against six, or three separately. I enjoyed it for what it was, a sequel to the original trilogy. I loved the feeling of being in a familiar universe, but I also noticed a lot of flaws in the film. I think I enjoy the idea of exploring the world after, opposed to exploring what happened before, but at the same time, I think there were things George Lucas could have done better.
     
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