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My Review of Solo: A Star Wars Story

Discussion in 'Solo' started by CnlSandersdeKFC, May 25, 2018.

  1. CnlSandersdeKFC

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    Solo: A Star Wars Story get's 3/5 "Cool Points."

    Pros:
    1) Great Action. I was smiling during all of the action scenes, and was impressed with the visual effects, and flow of it all.
    2) Both Donald Glover, and Alden Ehrenreich give great performances, and portray these iconic characters deftly.
    3) NEU connectivity is strong. THAT cameo. (Also, was it just me or was one of those other wookiees named Zalbaar?)
    4) A decently solid first and second act, where the screenplay really shines.
    5) Drydan feels like a legitimately threatening and creepy villain portrayed by Paul Bethany.

    Cons:
    1) L3. God this character was obnoxious. I don't know what it was. I enjoyed her in the Han and Lando book, but whenever she said anything in this I cringed.Thank the Maker her speaking lines are limited compared to the rest of the cast.
    2) Emilia Clarke. Still one of the worst actresses in the business when she isn't half-naked atop a dragon.
    3) Woody Harrelson delivers a solid performance for half the film, but it feels like he phones it in HARD during the third act. Maybe these were during the reshoots? I legit laughed my ass off when he died, it was that bad.
    4) The third act all around didn't feel well put together at all. All those twist just felt very sloppy.
    5) This film feels very much like it was made to pander to the zeitgeist. A lot of it feels cool, without feeling substantial. For it's flaws there are amazing scenes in TLJ that I will never forget. This movie has nothing that really stuck out, or feels like it'll stick with me for long. It just doesn't have that mojo.
     
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    I don't get the L3 hate. I thought she was a fantastic new take on self-aware droids (a hallmark of Star Wars films), and her connection to the Falcon really hit home for me.
     
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    She is the best thing about Solo. I was genuinely sad when she was destroyed/killed (?).
     
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    There was no character development in this film at all so none of the characters registered at all. Han Solo seems passive and just floating along with whatever other people decide he should be doing.

    It's a big mess of a film. Again, excited for those who loved it, but this film, for me, was a total bore.
     
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    I disagree with almost everything you said. I thought the character development was a strength (even the robot had a good arc). Han Solo seemed incredibly active to me, to the point that calling him passive seems like something someone who didn't watch the film would say. And a bore? I mean, almost every person who has seen it and commented has acknowledged that it's "fun" - if you are bored by it, I'm not sure you like Star Wars movies???
     
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    What arc? She's into droid rights, but not enough to actually help them liberate themselves, leaves them all to fend for themselves, even though the Empire shows up to quash the rebellion violently. She then just dies and is ripped apart for parts to get out of a jam. The characters didn't care "she" was dead and neither should we.

    There is no character development in this film, it's all just action sequences loosely cobbled together and stitched together from two different directors, which explains all the continuity offers.

    Even the accents of the characters rarely stay consistent from one act to the other.

    What a mess of a film.
     
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    L3 was orginaly a parody of KK created by L&M. She had a deleted line that sed "Humans cant relate to Droids". Mirroring KK's women can't relate to Luke. This is one of the reasons they got fired.
     
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    Totally absolutely disagree. I do not understand comments about character development, especially about Han Solo in this movie! The movie was 2 hours and 15 minutes, and was totally about Han Solo's life from his younger days on Corellia up until we know him in ANH. Just how, specifically, could this be "no character development"?????

    [Shaking....my....head]
     
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    Fair to criticize character depth in general, but I thought there was depth and layering with Han and Chewie.
     
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    What little there was did not make sense. I mean it starts with Chewbacca trapped in a cage for a long time, despite the fact the guards stand over a wobbly pole that keeps the entire cage upright. He somehow never figures this out and is willing to eat Han Solo because of it. Han leads him to almost lose his life, doesn't help him rescue his brethren, then places him immediate danger again with no payoff.

    I mean, there's some expansion on the brotherhood between these two, but its weak, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense and Chewbacca gets literally stuck with the heavy lifting constantly, for no real recognition, praise or gain. He was also apparently so hungry he'd eat raw humans in leather jackets, but then never bothers to be hungry afterward.

    It's a weird film, it smells of rewrites, two directors, misguided management and I believe a real sense of apathy. The continuity errors, particularly accents slipping in and out on certain characters, two instantly throwaway characters, introduced and then killed in short order. I found the whole damn thing utterly sloppy.

    This is just my dumb, internet opinion of course, please take it with liberal grains of salt.

    Overall I think the brand will be okay and I think the brand can easily support one film a year (maybe even two). But if you just suck out the old lore from OT and spit it out on the screen with some CGI and some loosely cobbled together chase scenes, you will flop.

    And it is a flop and I do believe the really bad script is a key reason why, that and of course, people are so freaking tired of prequels. Let's move Star Wars forward rather than just navel gaze at the past.
     
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    Fair points, I can't argue from a wholly objective standpoint (but in Star Wars, it's 95% SUBjective!) I won't bother scrutinizing Chewie not thinking about how to escape before Han's arrival, the scene played out like a blended plethora of fan theories, legend takes, etc. I was very happy to see the details confirmed, once and for all.

    Concerning Chewie sticking around, we know he wants to make money to find his family/tribe. I thought their bond developed very organically UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. Notable is that we never see Chewie swear Han a life debt -- not sure if that was conscious because of the whole PC aspect, or if it's just more implied.

    What did you find in the way on continuity errors?
     
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    I take it with more than "grains of salt", since I read your whole post. However, still disagree with just about everything you've said there.

    And there was more than "a little" character development for Han, that made a lot of sense to me.

    Oh well.
     
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    The only negative thing i could say about Solo is that we needed Jabba... Solo is synonymous with Jabba, in the much hated special editions...jk we see Solo with Jabba, in Empire Han leaves the Rebels cause he gotta pay his debts (Jabba) for some crazy reason if Solo had Jabba the fans would have gone nuts... all this sequel pandering stuff is crazy talk... I hope Disney takes a chance on Solo 2. I want to see jabba hahha
     
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    I really don't get why people say Emilia Clarke is a bad actress. Not incredible by any means, but likable, and not horrible in the sense that she's distracting. I think there was something about Qi'ra that was lacking in some way, though I'm not sure how, but I don't attribute it to her. I think she had good enough chemistry with Alden -- passable for the movie, but not enough to root for them over Han and Leia.
     
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    Its primarily her in GoT in which its race between her and Sophie Turner as the weakest actors in the series. She just doesn't pull off the strong leader thing very well, especially when she "speaks" in valerian or whatever.
     
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    That's fair. I've really fallen out of watching Game of Thrones, so I'm not coming at it from that perspective. It's an interesting argument that Amelia comes across as a better actress for those (and when I say "those," I'm really referring to me) that don't watch GoT vs those who do.
     
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    By now, hopefully, the facts can make us all agree on the following:

    1. Like or dislike, the film is a flop. One of the biggest flops in the brand's history.
    2. Like or dislike, it's clear films like this are losers. If you just rehash the past, just write a generic action-film and slap some Star Wars faces on top of it, the market is going to reject it.

    Solo flopped, it was a very bad move for the brand and now there's even more pressure on JJ to resurrect the brand.
     
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    Clarke is a very good actress. I think she did a fine job in Solo and does an equally fine job in GoT. Terminator Genesys was mediocre, but by no fault of Clarke.
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    Agreed (assuming you are talking purely from a financial standpoint).
    The phrase "films like this" is too vague to understand what you are saying here. If you mean the "A Star Wars Story" movies are losers, then no I do not agree.
     
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