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SPECULATION My Thoughts On Some Possible Directions Of Episode VIII

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Seprix, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. Seprix

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    I put a lot of thought into Star Wars, and I currently have some theories and ideas that could go a couple of ways, depending on where you want to go. Here’s a possible plot point, backed up by Han’s possibly being right about Snoke from TFA: Kylo gets ditched by Supreme Leader Snookie. Why would this happen?

    Because he wants Rey as his apprentice, right? It makes complete sense, it’s a good story arc on first look. So could Rey turn to the Dark Side? Common sense says not currently, and Kylo won’t be ditched unless Rey turns, even if only temporarily. But that can’t be! So either something happens where Poe/Finn/Luke/someone dies and Rey loses it because she loves them (friend, date, or father figure, you decide!), has doubts in the future (maybe the Resistance isn't the right side...) or the second possibility:

    The so-called apprentice is merely a vessel for Snoke. There is tons of speculation that Snoke is Darth Plageius, and even if he wasn’t, this would be a really interesting direction to take. Smoke is damaged, old, brittle, but very wise with the Force. Can’t he just take over someone’s body and remain alive with a new vessel? Wouldn’t he want a legit host? Kylo Ren was the original planned host, and now Rey is a better candidate, bam. Sure, there are some possible plot holes with this, but it's something to consider. I mean, maybe Luke is in a constant mind battle with Snoke to prevent him from taking over Kylo/Rey, and that's why Snoke wants Luke dead so much. Maybe Snoke doesn't have all that long to live, and Luke is preventing him from taking on another body. In the novel, Snoke is afraid of Luke. Could this be why? Maybe after Luke possibly dies, Rey is taken over and Snoke just ditches Kylo with Rey's newly possessed body. It's a bit far-fetched, but hey. That's what speculation is for, right? It would be interesting to have a betrayed Kylo on newly on the light side fighting Rey either on the Dark Side or possessed by Snoke.

    Why would Rey turn willingly? After giving some thought to this, Rey is a character that feels betrayed due to her childhood, with the being left behind and all of that. If Luke was her father, and she finds out, she's going to be pretty pissed that he didn't come back for her, and instead twiddled his thumbs on some green island.
    Another way we could go or even add to the Luke bit is that the Resistance does some shady stuff that is morally ambiguous. Maybe the Resistance is just outgunned, so they develop some sort of super weapon (NOT THE DEATH STAR) to kill tons of baddies, and that thought is frightening to Rey. Maybe the New Republic is against the Resistance now, due to new leadership (Del Toro, anyone?).

    One last thing to note. In the art and some ideas tossed around, it says that Kylo could be in a constant battle with himself, and Anakin's Ghost and Darth Vader would show up as light/dark temptation. I say that this is in the movie, and Darth Vader could simply be a contraption of Snoke, since he's a total manipulator. Anakin would obviously be Anakin, and since Christensen is in the movie, it's probably because is IS a force ghost in the movie. Sure, it could be a flashback, since Han and Sydow are in VIII too, but come on, really? If they want Darth Vader, just put any old dude in the mask. And do you think anyone wants a flashback to the Prequels? I mean, maybe it will show a damaged Anakin without a helmet in Darth Vader's suit, but I think it'll be a force ghost.

    Just some thoughts, what do you all think?
     
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    My episode 8 predictions grouped by likeliness. Please weigh in and offer your own.

    Very likely:
    • Rey trains with Luke
    • Rey's parentage reveled
    • Snoke's intentions reveled
    • Kylo trains with Snore
    60%
    • Leia tries to rally support for the fight against the first order(get systems to pledge support etc.)
    • Finn's love interest is introduced(possibly creating a love triangle)
    • Poe(and likely Finn) fight against the first order
    • Kylo vs. Rey rematch. Kyle wins this one
    40%
    • Finn is captured and Rey abandons Luke training to help Finn(for romantic reasons or otherwise) a la Luke
    • First order presses forward takes out key base
    • Benicio del Toro is more of an empire favoring neutral. Like Lando but more malevolent
    >10%
    • Smoke vs. Luke
    • Korriban appearance
    So what do you guys think. The percentages are there as guidelines and maybe not exact but generally what I believe. Can't wait to see what you guys come up with!
     
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  3. Bandini

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    Mines :

    Rey training with Luke
    Luke joining the resistance
    Snoke identity revealed
    Finn getting trained as a a jedi too
    Kylo being trained by Snoke

    Rey remembering who she really is with many emotions conflicts ( Anakin's past life )
    Luke is killed to save someone

    Kylo Ren kills Snoke
    Finn tempted by the dark side.
    Poe getting killed somehow.

    Kylo Ren and Rey facing again

    Rey reveals to Kylo who she really is ( The chosen one's avatar aka Anakin )
    Kylo Ren left mind blown.

    End of Ep VIII


     
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    I only hope that VIII doesn't mirror ESB. Too boring to see Finn get captured, Rey ditch Luke to save Finn, Rey and Kylo Ren face off, ect. I mean those are great ideas but they're too original. We need something new!
     
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  5. Johnvo93

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    My prediction for VIII is Kylo Ren or Rey will get a limb cut off
     
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    I as well am hoping for a big twist to set it apart from ESB. I almost see the inverse movie being set up. Like maybe it would be the resistance on the rise. Thanks for the responses!
     
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    Leia reveals it was she who left Rey (Lukes daughter) on Jakku. She knows it was the will of the force that brought Rey back - explains the emotional hug between the two.

    Snoke reveals his true identity: Former Sith Lord Darth Plagueis. Kylo already knows that Snoke is his grandfather's creator.

    The vision of the Knights of Ren that Rey experienced is actually a vision of the future - a scene we'll see in EpVIII.

    Hayden Christensen will return in force ghost form.

    It will be the best episode yet.

    I will lose my blast!
     
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    She can't be Anakin since Jedi can't physically reincarnate .
     
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    Nor get married.
     
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    I see an 80's training montage in the works before the big boxing match-- err, I mean lightsaber duel.
     
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    nor attachments .
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    Anakin loved to break the rules didn't he ?
     
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    Good stuff.

    My predictions:

    1- Snoke goes down. Kylo will never forget Dad's warning that Snoke is using him. Kylo will realize that he is being manipulated or he will learn of the plot that Snoke is working against him and strike first.

    2- Phasma strikes back- She will do something and it will be good.

    3- Huge scale war throughout the galaxy that the Republic is loosing. After loosing their current seat of government and most of their fleet. Systems will have to figure out if they want to look to their own affairs, keep with the Republic (which now has adopted the Resistance) or playcate the 1st Order.

    4- The rest of the Knights of Ren fighting Luke, Finn and Maz while Rey figths Kylo.
     
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    What if---Kylo kills Snoke and takes over Snoke's identity without anyone knowing and he unwittingly destroys The FO due to his emotions .
     
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    I think people know who Snoke is.
     
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    My guess is Snoke really wants Rey and when Kylo figures this out him and Snoke will not be BFF's anymore.
     
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    Likely

    Luke is initially uncooperative
    Finn wants to reunite with Rey
    Rey's backstory is examined
    Kylo isn't in it much until the end

    Probable

    Finn has visions that sets him on a journey outside the resistance to search for his past
    The new female character is someone from his home world
    Rey succeeds in convincing Luke into coming back by responding to a premonition of a large altercation involving the KoR
    Finn finds out he has the force

    Possible
    Finn finds out his family has a connection to the Jedi
    Rey comes to get Finn out of a hairy situation
    Luke makes his decision to train Rey and maybe Finn after he sees what his ABSENCE has caused.

    Maybe?
    Rey's staff becomes her ligthsaber
     
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    This would be a nice divergence from the OT, giving the story arc of the ST it's own identity, after the repetitions of TFA.

    But Disney is set to make at least a couple billion dollars from TFA's re-jiggering of the plot from ANH.

    So my prediction: Episode VIII will be a re-jiggering of the plot of ESB. I wish it weren't so, but it's probably inevitable...
     
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    I just hope we don't see episode VIII mirroring ESB. Also it would be cool if we see a full scale war between the resistance an the FO or the New Republic. I think it would be cool but those are hopes, not predicitions really.
     
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    I have been thinking a lot about this topic. The only thing I feel confident about is they will make episode 8 really dark and twisted,

    What do you think?
     
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