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New Character Backstories - How much did Kasdan and Abrams flesh out.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Darth Chewie, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. Darth Chewie

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    Abrams has said as much, that TFA was merely a setup for someone else to take the story and characters to another level.

    That being said, there did seem to be a lot if subtly in TFA dialogue. Such as Ren's "What girl?" for a good example.

    So how much backstory do you think Kasdan and Abrams actually laid out as they were writing their script and collaborating with Rian Johnson as he wrote the script for Ep.8?

    Is it possible that Abrams created no backstory at all, and simply created new characters and events, simply to leave it all up to Rian Johnson to figure out?

    Or did Abrams along with Johnson (Rian did ask for certain things to be included in TFA), mostly flesh out the entire back story and ultimate conclusion, before TFA script was completed?
     
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    Well I think Rey and to an extent Kylo are the only one's that have some backstory mystery to them, and they're the main characters. I'm sure they had figured it out. I think JJ has said some hints about who Rey's parents are and such. And I'm pretty sure they know what went down during the New Jedi massacre. But with all this Story Group collaboration, I think its unlikely that they don't at least have some of that stuff laid out so that authors don't mess up the continuity. But I really don't know. Good question.
     
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    I think once all three are done, we'll be surprised just how much they kept from GL script he produced when he sold SW to the Mouse. I heard he made a draft so he could ask for more money when they struck a deal. There will be changes, but less than we think.
     
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    Michael Arndt was working based on information from GL and JJ and LK decided to do a ground up rewrite so i doubt a lot of it has been/will be from george in the end
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    We'll I heard it was taking to long, so the rewrote and hurried it up. I still think we'll be surprised how much of GL story made it in.
     
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    I'm really interested to see what George's original Sequel Trilogy treatment consisted of, and how much does end up getting used in the ST films. I'm assuming that sometime a couple years or so after Episode IX we ought to get a pretty comprehensive "Making of the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy" book that covers this.

    My understanding is that the entire ST treatment was only a few pages long, so I don't think we're really looking at a lot of story detail there. Probably just the broad strokes, general ideas for the new characters, etc. And yes, it seems that the treatment was mainly written up in order to sweeten the pot for the sale of LFL. It may have been written based on ideas he'd had earlier on, but I'm not so sure that it was anything that existed on paper prior to Lucas' idea to sell the company.

    One thing that I do recall hearing was that George's Episode VII idea revolved around a group of teenagers, rather than the young adults that Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo/Ben ended up being. Personally, I'm glad J.J. and company shifted the ages up like that. Teen angst, despite how it feels when one is in the midst of it themselves, is by and large a pretty one-dimensional thing from a storytelling standpoint. The challenges that the new generation of SW characters face are just a lot more interesting when they're being dealt with by adult characters.
     
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    I hope they release that document! But I kinda think it will be decades before they let that thing see the light of day. Especially if they changed the entire story. I hope that's not the case. And I hope George's core story is still lurking in the ST somewhere.
     
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    I think that JJ, Kasdan and the overall story group have an outline of what needs what led to TFA.

    If for no other reason than they wanted a frame for future projects to rely on. Future novels, tv shows and the like.

    As for GL's ideas Lucas has a history of distancing himself from things he isn't fully in control of. There are a number stories from the EU that he collaborated on and gave advice to but maintaining "that's not how I would do it."

    Also I think Lucas is the cavalry. Meaning that if things go sideways for the series and it looses real steam he is the best choice to come in to right the ship.
     
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    There are a couple of lines from the TFA novelization that didn't make it on to the screen that show more backstory development.

    Snoke and Kylo are talking and there is a statement that "It is her" as if it was someone they knew existed. Also recall that when Kylo is reading Rey's mind he says "I see it. I see the island."

    I think there is going to be even more that shows this once we see how it plays out. By the time we get through IX, Rey's Forceback is going to make a lot of sense, and not necessarily what we think is the case now.

    EDIT: We also know that Rian made some requests regarding TFA that were granted. I recall one of them being the specific nature of Finn's injury from Kylo.
     
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