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New Falcon Pics - Tree Temple?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by fizzgig, Apr 30, 2016.

  1. fizzgig

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    The pics from Pinewood that have the falcon. It looks like the steps go into the tree. Is this another tree/temple/force hot spot similar to Dagobah in Empire?
     
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    It looks really civilized based on the link to the pics I posted in the VIII forums based on the design artistic details on what seems to be a landing platform .
     
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    but do you see the same thing I see....the steps go INTO the tree. Same set doesn't mean same scene, could be separate scenes as far as I know (angles and such). but same set.
     
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    Are you sure that's the "First Jedi Temple" Han mentioned in TFA? To me, it looks too "modern" - too close to the Prequels era - to be something that is supposed to be very ancient.

    However, the entire set is stunning, and it makes me cursing Rogue One to have stolen this year to Ep.8 :)
     
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    I don't think people are understanding that these are three different sets. Just because the sets are close to each other doesn't mean they're in the same place story-wise. There's an AHCH-TO set, a prequel-ish 'casino' set, and another set that is not yet finished. Completely separate places in the movie.
     
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    I think it's because they don't LOOK seperated .
     
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    That tree looks really important. I'd say it has to do with the origin of the force.

    Here's the most recent canon mention of force-trees:

    In the books, it's mentioned that Luke stole 2 force-trees from the Empire with Poe Dameron's mother, Shara Bey. He gave one to Shara, which she planted in her backyard, and Luke kept his and took it to the first Jedi temple. Perhaps Luke planted his on AHCH-TO. And perhaps the tree we see on set is the "first" force tree, but it's obviously burnt and dead. So Luke planted his own there for whatever reason, to give the force "life" again.
     
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    To me, that structure could be anything but a casino. If you look closer, the floral decoration of the courtyard is almost the same of the Jedi council room in the Prequel Trilogy.
     
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    I had similar idea - that this is 'mother' Force tree, the tree from which Jedi temple tree as well as two saplings from the Shattered Empire originated from.
     
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    I'm just saying it could be a casino because it looks very similar to the leaked Dubrovnik set pics, which takes place at a casino. They also look very prequel-y.
     
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    If you read the book "The Sacred and the Profane," a text akin to Campbell's "hero has 1,000 faces" which Lucas was so influenced by...but Sacred and Profane outlines the basic terminology, tropes, etc of religion rather than cultural narrative archetypes, the shot of the tree shout set off alarm bells.

    There's the concept of the "axis mundi": the center of the world. It's a key concept in many religions. Think Stonehenge, Solomans temple, the forbidden City, SainT Peter's Basilica, etc.

    That could be where Jedi first learned to listen to the force and it all began. If we see force ghosts or flashbacks of where snoke came from or anything like that, it's likely that tree is the beginning or at least the source of this conflict.


    That burnt out tree is an excellent use of symbolism and/or an ingrained concept (like the basis of the Force in real life) that will make any new Force elements much more accessible without being midichlorian-esqe ruining of a good concept of a Starkiller-esqe repeat of something like the cave. The cave was a test and symbol.


    That burned out tree could be a rabbit hole type furthering of the concept of the Force or backstory that influences this film and the next, as well as ripples into past films

    I highly doubt it's like the cave. If they redo the cave with a tree, then Rian is no better than JJ. And JJ did way too much repeat (no troll).

    The tree (remember the castle from dark crystal) is an exciting development
     
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    Maybe they will climp down into the root system?
     
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    What do you mean by that ?
     
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    What pics? All I see are comments.
     
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    I feel like the tree will have additional stuff in the background through matte effects, and that it will a living, force-sensitive temple-the first Jedi temple, to be exact.
     
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    Game of thrones is doing the exact same thing right now and probably next year. That plot line was established on the show two yeas ago and confirmed for this season well before the EPVIII script was finalized. I'm wondering if they would do such a similar motif.

    Though that big hole in the side of the tree does point to either someone appearing from the tree or them entering it.

    You could be onto something but..again GoT three eyed raven is so similar. This ain't a JJ flick.
     
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    If anything it would simply be Luke's shelter to protect him from the elements/hide from
    Any scouts that's are bad guys or as some people think it could be this planet's version of Dagobah'a force-cave .
     
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    Apparently, when Greg Rucka was searching for the MacGuffin of his comic Shattered Empire, he didn't want to reuse the same old Holocron type of thing, so Pablo Hidalgo and the Story Group themselves suggested he use force-tree saplings, possibly because force trees would later become important to the story?

    When the Emperor took control of Coruscant, he cut off two pieces of the force tree which was the centerpiece of the courtyard at the Jedi temple - it was considered the "focal point of the light side". From Bloodline, we know that Luke took a special interest in collecting Jedi artifacts post-ROTJ. He went on this daring mission with Kes Dameron to recover those pieces of the force tree - for reasons we don't exactly know. The more I read, the more I believe that every force tree comes from one "original" force tree, which is likely the one we see in the set pics. Trees are very symbolic for things like growth and life. I'm sure this "first force tree" is fundamentally important to the light side of the force and the Jedi as a whole, and it's possibly what Luke went searching for when Ben turned. Luke has either planted or will plant his sapling, to symbolize the birth of the new Jedi order, because every forest starts with a single tree.

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