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SPOILER New MARVEL 'Star Wars' Comic Series

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Books & Comics + Legends' started by Kreetle Kris, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. Kreetle Kris

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    Thought I'd start a new thread where people who bought the comics can discuss the content without spoiling it for people who haven't ...

    Just read issue one. Loved it.
    The art is fantastic and the colouring is fabulous. The galaxy jumps of the page, feels alive. The only criticism one could have is that the main characters don't always resemble the actors who played them all those years ago. Han Solo looks like Ford most of the time but once again Mark Hamill proves difficult to get right...

    But it doesn't really matter when the writing is this good right? It's been a long time since i read a Star Wars comic where the dialogue feels like it could have been in one of the films. Only 3PO, at times, feels a tad overwritten.

    I loved how the comic starts in 'media res' just like the films. It really is a team comic and every character has it's moment in the limelight without it feeling contrived..

    Stand out moments: Luke freeing the slaves and the 'these aren't the slaves you're looking for' moment.
    C3P0 all alone on the Falcon being stripped ... Tense and fun.
    Loved the cliffhangers, though the final one could be controversial to some fans. Some wont like Luke facing Vader this soon.

    On to issue two!
     
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    First off, I absolutely loved the first issue! Two things I wonder about though ...


    1) Is Luke going to be depicted crossing lightsabers with Vader before ESB? I'm not one of the fans who go off the deep end about anything I may not like. But, I'm really hoping that Luke follows Ben's advice and runs. It won't stop be from enjoying and reading the series. However, I do feel that it would cheapen the conflict in ESB a bit. I liked that GL had a caveat, denying permission for such a battle before ESB in the EU. Vader seems much more familiar with Luke during their battle on Cloud City. It does seem like they ran into each other earlier. I'm okay with that, just think it will be better if they don't actually have a lightsaber duel, instead a run-in or two. Either way (some fans are just ridiculous about getting what THEY want) I won't let it "ruin my childhood".
    2) I was expecting and hoping to see Obi-Wan play a role, mentoring and continuing Luke's training through the Force. I personally liked having him only as a voice like in ANH. I'm wondering if they'll show him as a Force ghost during the series. I suppose it could be done right. But I'd personally prefer that they keep just the voice. Luke seems genuinely surprised to actually see Obi-Wan on Hoth as a spirit. Of course that could be because he was disoriented and on the verge of freezing to death. I think it would better to saving that reveal for that moment.

    All in all fantastic and February seems far away. It's nice having these smaller checkpoints to look forward to, and not only wait until December. Instead, my mind is thinking ... just one more week until a new Rebels, three for the next comic.
     
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    Agreed on the Vader confronting Luke bit. He has to follow Ben's advice and just run. Him having a duel with Vader before ESB would indeed lessen the impact of that duel. Given how much of a Star Wars fan Aaron is it would surprise me if they did. Perhaps the two will be distracted by Solo and co causing chaos in that walker? That's definitely something I'm looking forward to.

    Also: will 3PO actually use that blaster? I can't imagine that droid firing away at those aliens. Chewie to the rescue?

    It will be a long wait 'till the next issue. Even more for me. To cut down on shipping costs I'm having my februari comics shipped at the end of the month to include two 'Darth Vader' issues and the Starlight trade paperback so I will have to try and stay spoiler free till the 26th of Februari ... Mission impossible indeed.
    (By the way: those preview pages of the Darth Vader and Princess Leia comic rock! Especially the former, though the latter was a pleasant surprise as well. Good times to be a Star Wars fan and seeing the franchise in the hands of people raised on the OT)

    Another question: do you guys think Vader, the 'negotiator', was in on the rebelion's plans?It seems strange that he'd be so hands on in negotiating such a deal. Or maybe the emperor is so angry with him after the loss of the Death Star Darth has to get his hands dirty.
    In the preview to DV1 we see him at Jabba's palace. If this took place before SW1 it might have been an Imperial trap all along to get our heroes stuck on Cymoon 1. Not only that, but with the real emissary caught by the rebels the imperial fleet may be closing in on the rebellion's.
     
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    It was bland but serviceable, and a story that if it had never been written would have made no difference to the SW saga, but it fulfills corporate objectives: bring lots of OT characters back into the limelight. The art felt more superheroic than SW, and story time was wasted by the full-page 'pin ups' of characters which hardly advanced the narrative and wasted the potential impact of single-page panels better reserved for establishing important environment shots and critical character moments (I expect they will be used more practically as the series continues). The post Episode IV era has already been extensively mined and so this story is more of the same, but reassuringly familiar and not likely to confuse newcomers to SW, or to upset hardcore OT fans. 3/5 would be my rating for Star Wars #1.
     
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    Got to agree, I'm afraid. I couldn't really distinguish this from most of the Dark Horse stuff that came before it. I found the art pretty bland and lacking in style, and it was just all very "do you see what we did there, huh? Huh?" nudge-nudge, wink-wink, self-referencing stuff.

    It's hard to put my finger on why I love the original Marvel Star Wars comics. I guess it's because they didn't try to be too clever - they didn't try to imagine how the Sith originated, they didn't try to make all the characters come out with a Star Wars catchphrase each issue, they didn't try and tie everything in with the movies in such a literal sense... they usually took time to introduce a new location, and a new situation with new characters and we spent quality time there getting to know them as our heroes got involved in whatever the situation was.
    I'm sure everyone has a different take on what they would like to see, but personally, I think it worked best when Luke and co were just off doing things on their own that didn't necessarily relate to the ongoing struggle with Empire - rather than Luke coming face to face with Vader ALREADY in the first issue.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, the beauty of what Marvel did first time around - and I understand it was a result of the limitations imposed on them because they were usually bridging the gap to a movie which hadn't been released yet - was that they fleshed out the Star Wars universe and it's inhabitants.
    What Dark Horse began to do later on, and Marvel seem to have picked up the baton, was make the Star Wars universe very claustrophobic and repetitive. That's not really "expanded" universe, it's "so densely concentrated in one thematic area it's becoming a black hole" universe.

    I'm not saying the old SW Marvel was perfect (it did some very silly things) but I think it benefited from that whole "we might have a lead on where Han Solo is, well it turns out he is not on this planet, but something is going on down here, let's hang around and get involved anyway..." sort of attitude. You got to meet races who were actually affected by the war, and saw the impact of the Empire on the regular denizens of the galaxy (something even the movies didn't really do) without it all being about Luke v Vader.

    EDIT: I realised when I said the art was lacking "style", it may have seemed like I'm being a bit unfair. Just to clarify, I'm sure the art has "a style" whether I like it or not.
    I suppose this is kind of like the old "CGI versus live effects" argument. I was brought up on the old nine sheet colour separations and even old spot colour stuff in the UK. Nowadays the colouring and effects in comics are far more sophisticated - of that there can be no doubt. But this doesn't always make for better artwork because - sometimes, not always - the initial "inks" suffer as a result, whereas in the past they always had to have a lot more dynamics to succeed. Because you can now leave a certain amount of detail or contrast "open" that the colours can add later. Again, not necessarily a bad thing, but in this case, I feel the inks are pretty flimsy and lacking in lots of heavy contrast, which is what I prefer. It ends up just looking like a load of simple colouring book outlines that someone filled in with Photoshop, IMHO.
    Just my two cents...
     
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    It's also a shame that a third of the comic was filled with adverts for merchandise and previews of other forthcoming comics. It felt like it was over before I'd really got into it. At least I managed to get one of the variant covers though, all wrapped up and pressed flat ready to sell in 100 years time!
     
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    Well I liked it. A lot.
    What they absolutely nailed was the tone of the OT and the voice of the characters. We'll get a better view of what they are aiming for once this opening action scene is over and there is more room for narrative. The sollicit for the fourth issue sounds promising to me: it has Luke returning to Tatooine to visit Ben's house. Probably to find out more on the jedi.
    To me, the art is fantastic. Sure it's not Matt Kindt 'Mind MGMT' artistic or Jean 'Moebius' Giraud cool but that's not what Star Wars is about.

    Come to think of it: a brainy, philosophical take on Star Wars in a nouvelle vague Godard or Truffaud (Jules et Jim in space!) kind of way with characters just talking on and on and on would be kinda cool. ;)
     
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    It's interesting seeing the divided views on this! I personally really enjoyed it and thought it was a brilliant start to a new age in Star Wars comics/graphic novels. I enjoyed the dialogues, action and events thoroughly.

    I can, however, see why people feel cheated out of something new. I loved the expansive detail and constant new faces of the old EU and it felt truly unlimited, so I'm hoping to see more of this (and I imagine we will through the likes of Kanan). That said, I can see why they're pulling from the OT hat at first just to establish the style and ideas they're hoping to use going forward through the stories of familiar characters. I can definitely appreciate that it's better to ease into the new era.

    On the topic of the previews for Vader and Leia, I have mixed feelings. Vader looks excellent in terms of art style and the story looks compelling and I'm hoping we see the gritty side of Vader as in the likes of Dark Horse's Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison. Leia I'm not sold on yet. The art style looks too (for want of a better word) fluffy and the preview tells us nothing of the story despite taking up two pages, so I'm slightly concerned about pacing. That said, I'll remain open minded in wait for a pleasant surprise.
     
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    Come again? Look at this:
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    Hah - maybe I was over-exaggerating when I said that, just to make my point.
    I guess what I mean is the weight comes from the colouring in a lot of this art. Which is not a bad thing. Just my personal taste is for lots of contrast in the inks before the colouring is added. If you take away the colour, it is very "outline-y". I prefer more of that weight to be in the inks themselves if you get what I mean, more bold areas of dark and light...
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    Posting it here as some will not want issue 2 to be spoiled but holy crap:

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    So much for Ben's advice. Luke fighting Vader this soon wont sit well with many old school fans. I don't mind it that much but, this being the new canon, does diminish the finale to episode 5 in a way.

    More here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=25803
     
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    Well Luke (and Leia) faced Vader in Splinter of the Mind's Eye in the Legends continuity, so I don't see the big deal of his fighting Vader here.
     
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    I really don't mind any of this really, it's just something we'll have to get used to. I do think however, it is a little early for them to face one another but I'm just glad someone didn't have a brain fart and have Vader saying something about that being his saber. :)
     
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    True. And it also explains how Vader finds out about his son still being alive. His seeking out what really happened all those years ago and ending up obsessing over finding Luke could be explored in the upcoming Darth Vader series.

    But let's hope they don't keep running into one another (You again!) as that would be silly. I enjoy my rebel alliance fearful of the Sith and in constant hiding. They ended episode four on a high and I understand there has to be a transition to episode 5. Bring on issue two and beyond ...
     
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    Reminder that issue #2 is out today. I got mine.
     
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    To cut down on shipping costs I'll have my copy shipped along with two issues of Darth Vader on the 25th .... Can't wait.

    Must resist reading this thread. Don't want it spoiled. Enjoy it guys!
     
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    Just ordered a copy (my first ever comic... I'm a slow developer). Very excited!
     
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    Yep, I read my digital copy a few hours ago. It was great. We will be posting a review later. ;)
     
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    I might have to skip out of work early and shoot on over to the comic book store!
     
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    Just went in to peep at the second issues thread and saw a wall of text review filled with possible spoilers. Decided to quickly leave.
    Looked like an impressive enough job and will read once I get mine (collecting the physical copies, I'm old fashioned like that, want to give my sons a box of cool comics down the line) later this month. Go Kyle!

    And so the gruelling 'seeing the cool releases of February but waiting to have them all shipped in one go' continue with the first Vader the day after tomorrow and the second issue on the 25th. After which I'll have them shipped.
     
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