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Now that you have seen R1 do you have faith in more stand alone movies?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Kript, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. Mcbee

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    I haven't posted on here in ages.

    I loved rogue one. It was a flawed gem. I really enjoyed the ride and additional lore it brought to the galaxy. There are valid critiques and fanboy nitpicks, sure, but I quite enjoyed myself.

    I'm very happy to know there are more stand alone features in the works. So far I've been quite happy with the Disney era LFL and they've given me no reason to doubt. So even though I think the Han solo film is a bad idea, I have faith that I'll be proven wrong.
     
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  2. BrotherRoyVA

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    It's been a while since I posted on this forum in general due to school, but I'm on winter break so I got some free time. I probably won't be as frequent as I was prior to my school program, but...

    I saw R1 a few nights ago. I have been curious how the fan community has taken it. Prior to seeing it I was iffy on the whole mid-quel/mid-prequel type thing they're doing. I figured there'd be a lot of revision going on, but I left R1 feeling pretty pleased. I thought it fit well in the mainstream cannon. I explained it this way to someone: If you ever read any of the expanded universe (for me mostly the comics) then it was like watching one of those stories play out on the big screen for once. Instead of just a nod here with mentions or well timed obscured cameos of expanded universe characters you get an entire story on the big screen of a big what happened over here type story that significantly influences the larger narrative in the Star Wars universe and isn't heavily influenced by the major characters we're all familiar with. Especially the Skywalkers.

    With that said, I can't say for certain I'm happy with the other stand alone films like Solo and Fett. Personally, I would love to see them dive deeper in to the Expanded Universe history of Star Wars and get into some of the stories from thousands of yeas prior to the Battle of Yavin. For me, that's where Star Wars shined and I always felt the films were far too restricted to a particular group of people although I enjoyed them. So all in all I'm a little skittish that things may start getting revised too much. I felt we already got some subtle revisions that I liked with TFA and now in R1. I plan to cover it elsewhere in a write up or podcast or something later.

    But just my 2 cents.
     
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  3. cawatrooper

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    Yeah, I'm a little iffy on the Solo film, but Fett isn't necessarily confirmed yet. To be honest, I'd rather see Fett as a minor character in the Solo movie, than getting his own film.

    I posted this in the solo group yesterday, but here's my idea on how the Solo film could be decent and also feature some Fett:

     
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    Are you saying that you like the EU more than the films? It kind of sounds that way to me. Not being judgmental, just a little surprised.

    For me, standalone films taking place in different eras with different focus points sound like a great idea. I say bring me Star Wars in whatever form it takes, as long as it's done well and doesn't conflict with what we've already seen.
     
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    I'd say, in many ways, I'm much the same. I love the films, but Star Wars is so much more to me than the 8 movies we have.

    As a kid I grew up reading Star Wars books and playing Star Wars video games. The first Rogue Squadron alone ate up far more time than I ever spent watching the films, particularly when you're like me and were a kid who was kind of terrible at the game. KOTOR, Republic Commando, Battlegrounds, Shadows of the Empire, and best of all- Battlefront. These were whole worlds that opened up incredible new stories and characters.

    Now, I'm really into tabletop games. Rebellion lets you tell your own version of the Galactic Civil War. Imperial Assault lets you follow a ragtag group of Rebels as they attempt missions against the Empire. Star Wars Risk retells the Battle of Endor, forcing players to choose where they want to focus their attention on the battle.
    I've also gotten back into reading SW novels.

    It's not that I dislike the films- it's that they're just one part of the vast GFFA that I love.
     
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    Which is why I hope they keep going deeper with these movies and I think R1 is the tip of the iceberg.
    It was the litmus test to see how we'd respond to it. And the money says....they will keep pushing the style and stories of the universe.
     
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    In 1977, A New Hope was released as a standalone film at a time there was no guarantee that Star Wars would be financially successful and earn enough funding for a sequel. Which is why it was merely titled as "Star Wars" and not as "A New Hope". It didn't even have an Episode number in the crawl until VHS release in the 80's after TESB and ROTJ.

    Rogue One isn't the first standalone film, there's been others before. The two Ewok films and the film version of The Clone Wars. Oh none of these three had crawls in them either....
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    Right. The old EU was a ton of fun, but hey, it was also a big mess. A big fun, beautiful mess.

    If Star Wars is branching out and trying to keep a more careful canon, including branching out with new films- count me in, I'm all about that.
     
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    Which was Disney's goal when they essentially erased the old EU.
    It sucked, but I get it. They want to eventually tell new SW stories and when you have 40 years of those stories already told, it's increasingly hard to create new lore.

    If they keep the new canon tight and in order, it could be something special to witness.
     
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    In a sense, yeah. I like the main films, but the EU brought out the universe more. The main films were too restrictive to a particular set of characters and from that I've noticed some fans tend to be restrictive in how they view the entirety of the SW universe as a whole. In the EU there is more going on and there are more people influencing the entirety of the SW narrative.

    All in all I like both, but as cawatrooper said, the 8 films are just part of the greater universe and R1 feels to me like the EU coming to life as part of the film side of the greater SW universe some people only restrict themselves to.
     
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    I must've hallucinated this from the Clone Wars movie, then...:

    A galaxy divided. Striking swiftly after the Battle of Geonosis, Count Dooku’s droid army has seized control of the major hyperspace lines, separating the Republic from the majority of its clone army. With few clones available, the Jedi Generals cannot gain a foothold in the Outer Rim, as more and more planets choose to join Dooku’s Separatists. While the Jedi are occupied fighting a war, no-one is left to keep the peace. Chaos and crime spread and the innocent become victims in a lawless galaxy. Crime lord Jabba the Hutt’s son has been kidnapped by a rival band of pirates. Desperate to save his son, Jabba puts out a call for help. A call the Jedi are cautious to answer.


    But yeah, I think by "standalone", they mean serious live action theatrical release. Not the Christmas special or the Ewok media.
     
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    Wait I thought the crawl was added in 1978 when it was re released
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    Definitely.
     
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    Yes, it has been definitely a great initiative for me...
     
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    Yep I do, RO got my faith going again.
     
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