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SPOILER Obi-Wan Kenobi Ep. 6 Discussion

Discussion in 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' started by Lord Phanatic, Jun 21, 2022.

  1. Pernicious-Jawa

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    This, all of this. Regardless of some technical faults and gripes I had with tonality over the series - all was worth it for that moment alone. The greatest acting I’ve ever seen in Star Wars
     
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    "You did not kill Anakin, Sky-walker...."

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    "I did."
     
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    Yeah, I don't read it so much as an absolution, but I've never felt more like Vader is a separate character from Anakin... like an entity, almost.

    This felt almost like a possession, like a demon taunting the exorcist.

    The importance here isn't necessarily that Obi Wan was absolved by Anakin, but that he truly saw the corruption now. This wasn't just two guys having a disagreement- Anakin truly had become a sith, through and through. There was never any reaching him... and to Obi Wan, he finally knows he did his best.
     
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    One thing no one mentions is neither Obi-Wan nor Anakin would kill the other. Anakin would know Obi-wan could survive under the rocks yet he did not make sure,
     
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    This cracks me up... how everyone said Hayden's acting in AOTC was the worst performance of all time in Star Wars, or some other... now with a different director, or with years passed, he has matured into this great actor, or had a great performance... His performance in AOTC did not offend me at all... ( I had to listen to people talk about him for years on end on how bad of an actor he is...) sand bit didn't bother me at all... tired of hearing that sand joke, well thats finally over with now he has this so-called great performance... oy vey... remember when the PT was the worst TRILOGY? HAHA... THIS :D
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    In Obi-Wan's seclusion, (he truly saw the corruption now) did he somehow forget that Anakin slaughtered children? One of them actually survived Anakin's Sith rampage in the temple, and was hunting him...
     
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    Agreed. Perhaps you will enjoy this:

    "Obi-Wan Kenobi once described Vader as being "seduced by the Dark Side," but the version of Vader seen in the series thus far has proven to be less seduced and more possessed. From the moment he puts on the helmet, Anakin Skywalker dies and Vader lives, and the visuals greatly reflect his new Sith-centric qualities.

    Putting the appearance and upgrades aside, Vader is almost a completely separate entity from Anakin in terms of persona and demeanor. He's calmer, more verbose, and more articulate than his former Jedi self, and his cool, cold, and intimidating presence serves as a symbol of the Dark Side completely consuming his soul." -
    https://screenrant.com/kenobi-subtle-important-vader-details/

    I really wish that George had left the OG turn alone and let Hayden run lose as Darth Vader for half the film (still found in the Novel).

    I know it was filmed. Vader was already there waiting, when the Jedi Posse arrived.

    AotC is my least favorite PT film but Hayden has nothing to with that.

    Ahh, herein lies the genius of this series:

    "Did you really think you could defeat me? Master."

    *walks away without verifying his victory over old Master

    ** Old Master comes back to beat the living Rancor snot of you, smash your respirator control panel for fun and force pummel your over emotional erratic ass

    *** Old Master leaves you for dead one more time: "Later, Darth...."


    "When I left you, I was but the learner...."

    *Steps on empty Jedi robes just to be sure he's gone for real
     
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    What was the fuss about Reva now? She is not the hero of the show. She turned out to be pitiful. I'm starting to understand her. She came into the presence of the solar god, Luke, the light inside of us, that's starting to shine a little bit, like the sun's light illuminating that sliver of moon in the Vader-Kenobi scene. She traveled through darkness before coming to the light, that little light that's inside of all of us when we're kids, before we learn to hate or experience the pains of life. Luke turned someone with a little darkness inside them when he's a young sun, and he'll turn the big darkness to light when he's older. It makes sense as poetry that she was seeking justice by becoming the evil she hated, and killing that little light that's inside her to do it. But why did she feel the need to kill him in the story itself? How does it help her? Is it not making sense part of the message, that it's senseless?

    The Reva-Luke scenes beside the Vader-Kenobi scenes highlight the fact that Luke is the winner of the heart, and Kenobi the winner of the mind.

    In the beginning of the series, she cut off the hand of the woman who was talking and asserting the rights of the people. Like the cutting off of hands wielding lightsabers in SW each have a meaning, do you think this was a symbol of cutting off the power to wield free speech and other rights that comes with the rise of dark empires?
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    How is it clouded, Xeven? Can you elaborate? With which parts of the three posts did you disagree? Did you just not like the series in general?
     
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    Anakin relishes being Vader, the entities are one and the same. Anakin's former Jedi self was impatient and childlike. He wanted more, and he got it with the upgrades. Obi-Wan's love for Anakin has clouded his judgement. ( Obi-wan says to Yoda, I can't kill Anakin, and that's exactly what Yoda wanted him to do) Obi-wan finally realizes who Anakin has become, he is an agent of the Dark-side, Space Hitler. The upgrades are what made Anakin cool, cold, and intimidating. As a comparison, Bruce Wayne is the mask, Batman is who Bruce Wayne really is. Darth Vader is who Anakin really is, they are one and the same. That is why Luke Skywalker says, there is still good in him.

    Vader is cool... but don't get it twisted... HAHA :D
     
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    Hayden was great as Anakin. It wasn't the acting that was at fault in the PT, it was the dialogue.

    And I say again, for 'cringeworthy moments', the entire PT....couldn't hold a candle to TROS.
     
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    Did anyone else notice that the opening shot of episode 6 had what looked like an ordinary, albeit large goat (might have been a sheep or llama )? It didn't look dressed to appear alien at all, although you only got to see the rear end of it as it went past camera.

    Maybe it's a really good pilot though. Can't judge a goat by its cover.
     
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    Some online said Beru and Owen were out of character in ep. 6, by fighting. "Lars" were guardian deities in ancient Roman culture. In SW, the Lars are guarding the sun god, Luke. I'm only guessing that the name Beru comes from the same root as bear, as in carry. Bher-. She is carrying and protecting the light. The light bearer. At the end of ROTS, she is carrying the baby light of the story, that's been separated from the moon goddess Leia. World in darkness. The moon light is trapped in darkness, and keeps getting held captive through until ROTJ, when she is released from bondage, and the sun can go do it's thing with darkness. Turn on the light.
     
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    OW Episode VI, screenshots part I

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    I agree with that; however, allot of toxic Star Wars fans, and Youtube personalities feel otherwise. :D
     
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    ..
    The shopkeeper there with Luke and Owen, is in the middle of a solar symbol-- the counter in the shape of a circle, with a dot in the middle. I wonder if the shopkeeper with the mask or some kind of breather thing is an inside joke about the sun's corona and corona virus. Either that or his face looks odd, from what I recall. Luke is the mythological sun god. He goes into the shop and stands right inside the symbol for the sun. The big square doorway is the material world, and there you have the little light coming into the world, looking for parts for the speeder, to get a move on.
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    It's not the only solar symbol in the room. See if you can find them in the video.
     
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    I guess Obi changed his ways when it came to Darth Maul….haha! j/k

    The prequel aspect of the story made it impossible for Vader to die, but it’s still a dumb decision on Obi-wan’s part. Imagine all of the people in Star Wars that would still be alive if Vader was killed at this moment….haha
     
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    I just want to take a minute to say it's been a blast sharing the experience of this series with you all. I loved all the reactions, speculation, and overall discussion each week... thank you, Cantina!!
     
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    Yes it was. But Ewan did an absolutely amazing job of 'selling' the soul-wrenching heartache behind Obi-wan's decision with his emotional, "I'm sorry...for all of it" line.
     
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    BEST in SAGA....

    End of discussion. (@DarthSnow lol)
     
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    And we have Andor and Bad Batch S2 still ahead to tide us over this year as we wait --- with delicious anticipation --- for Mando Season 3 and Ahsoka.
     
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