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SPECULATION Obi-Wan Kenobi's Legacy in the Sequel Trilogy

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Obi-Wan Solo, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. Boushhdisguise

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    Korkie sure does look like young Obi-Wan a bit. Just saying. :D;):rolleyes: Satine's "nephew"?

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    i still think the "sister" is suspicious as well.
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    Obi Wan's legacy is Luke. He did not make little Kenobi's for Jedi who try to abide by the council's rule only do anal [edit: "I meant <poodoo>]........................

    (epic fail)


    Can't believe I just typed that!
     
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  4. Dork Lord of the Bith

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    Especially when compared to Clone Wars Obi-Wan without facial hair:[​IMG]

    Keeping in mind that the same animation team who designed Korkie's face also designed Obi-Wan's.
    You're on to something Boushh...
     
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    dude. seriously.
     
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  6. Ammianus Marcellinus

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    I was actually hoping for the auto editor to change it to <poodoo> like it did in the olden times...................
    Now it serves merely as a testament to human thought.
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    I have my fingers crossed that we see ghost Obi Wan played by Ewan McGregor in Episode VIII. There have been rumors about Yoda making an appearance, there is no reason that Obi Wan can't jump in too.
     
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    Us Rey Kenobi believers are in a minority here. Personally I think it's a wasted opportunity if she isn't a Kenobi, since the poetry of it would be pretty damn amazing. Especially when seeing these scenes mirrored against each other.

    Time will tell. Personally I won't find any satisfaction if she's a Skywalker, don't see the point. We already have three Skywalkers in this trilogy just like the OT. If she's a Kenobi+Skywalker then that gets a little too Disney for me.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 21, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 21, 2017 ---
    How sick would it be if Obi-Wan told Rey her parentage himself?
     
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    This is a great thread`but I'm sticking to my flimsy theory that she is a Solo. A youtuber came up with a great theory that Han, Leia, Ben/Kylo and Rey could have been mind wiped by Luke to protect Rey's true identity. Its plausible, at the end of TFA Leia embraces Rey mostly because they feel that force connection. What if Leia has forgotten who Rey really is? Anywho just speculation...
     
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    I gotta say it'd be awesome. The more I think about the Rey Kenobi theory the more I like it. Even the fact that Rey is handing Luke his father lightsaber much like her grandfather did thirty years before.
     
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    I believe that Rey is the daughter of Luke Skywalker AND great-granddaughter of Obi-Wan Kenobi.

    My theory is that Korkie Kryze (Satine's nephew from The Clone Wars) is her and Obi-Wan's biological son. Obi-Wan was unaware of this as Satine kept the pregnancy a secret and gave him to one of her siblings to raise as their own child. Why? Well first things first, Obi-Wan would be expelled from the Jedi Order if the truth came out, Satine would be scandalized because of the affair and Korkie's life would have potentially been threatened due to him practically being Jedi/Mandalorian royalty.

    By the time Episode III rolls in, Korkie learns the truth while packing up his "aunt's" belongings (apparently he finds his real birth certificate or something, hidden files, etc.) Korkie attempts to contact Obi-Wan, but because Anakin has become Darth Vader and the Empire is rising, it's become a dangerous environment. He manages to escape Mandalore and after a while, finally tracks down Obi-Wan on Tatooine. After a long talk between father and son, Korkie - having packed everything up - decides to leave Mandalore behind and changes his name to "Lor San Tekka".

    He begins traveling the galaxy to start a new life for himself. He learns about the Church of the Force and becomes a follower. He also starts collecting Jedi artifacts to teach himself a little of the Force. He eventually forms a romance with someone (I like to believe it's Sabe - Padme's decoy handmaiden from Episode I played by Kiera Knightley; let's say she and her family managed to escape Naboo by the time the Empire had risen and are hiding out on the same planet as Korkie / Tekka; Mathematically, Sabe is only 5 years older than Tekka, same as Anakin/Padme) and has a daughter, potentially named Mara Jade (if they can bring Grand Admiral Thrawn back into canon, why not Mara Jade?)

    A tragedy occurs on the planet that ends with the Empire killing Sabe and taking Mara Jade away. Mara is taken to Emperor Palpatine where she is brainwashed and trained to become Palpatine's special agent, aka "Emperor's Hand." Cut to post-Return of the Jedi. The son of Anakin and the son of Obi-Wan meet for the first time. Mara Jade tries to kill Luke on Palpatine's behalf, but both Luke and Tekka are able to cure her brainwashing and bring her back to normal. The three of them then begin to restart the Jedi Order together.

    Luke and Mara Jade eventually fall in love themselves, get married and have a child: Rey. Long story short, whatever happened to Rey and Mrs. Skywalker happens.
     
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    Indeed. It's surprisingly not a very popular theory somehow, which to me is strange. I agree with you! I think if she is a Kenobi, that would be absolutely grand. It will tie all previous films together in a very profoundly satisfying way. I hope that's what TPTB decided to go with.
    I'm not going to be angry or upset or anything if she turns out not to be a Kenobi, of course. As soon as they come up with a story that fits well with the saga, that's fine by me. I just think that the greatest potential to tie all 3 trilogies of the saga is if she is a Kenobi.

    In any case, we'll see...And until then, we can speculate at least.

    Also, welcome to the Cantina and thanks for posting!
     
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    I'd be okay if obiwan had kids...but they'd need to explain it further in a standalone movie for general audiences to accept it.
     
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    Hm, interesting. Coincidences?! I think NOT!

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    Obi-Wan Kenobi Book cover (SW Legends)

    Better quality stills of the duel on Mustafar in ROTS and it's apparent parallel with the duel on Starkiller Base in TFA .

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    I too think Rey is a Kenobi or a Skywalker . I could live with both .both would be awesome .but I think she is a Skywalker .its the Skywalker Saga after all .(blue)
     
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    Official Star Wars.com Twitter just posted this.


    They still have unfinished business if you ask me. Here is to hoping that the ST will indeed make the circle complete.

    Also an older Tweet from months ago that is indeed interesting too. Interesting why would they draw attention to this...

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    “What is the Force? Its when you recognize that it was always there, like Kansas for Dorothy. But that doesn’t mean that every aspect of the Force is known yet. So when we get to this third act in the Star Wars series [the Sequel Trilogy], there’s more to be revealed. And that reveal is going to involve things from the past that were right in front of us all along.” - Rick Carter, The Art of Star Wars The Force Awakens, page 249

    For Rey the Force was always there, Maz says this to her.
    And in her Force back, we hear Kenobi speak directly to her. We only hear repeated dialogue from other legendary characters. Kenobi actually speaks to Rey. That has to mean something.

    A lot of the similarities and Kenobi tropes have been discussed here - but also something that stands out is that Kylo Ren's real name is Ben Solo. That has always struck me as odd and again must have some relevance. Why give him the name of Kenobi-in-exile? Is it just a nod to him or does it suggest something else? Will it be another element to Ben Solo that will motivate Rey to see his human side? Clearly I am alluding to Rey being Ben Kenobi's granddaughter here - but really the point stands whether that is true or not, there is a strong link to Kenobi's legacy here.

    And so going back to that quote from the top, I think it is interesting in that the first person to reveal the Force to us is Kenobi. And the first person to use the Force in incredible ways is Kenobi (Force ghosting). Something tells me that Kenobi's legacy will be revisited in this trilogy and that he has some connection to Rey...
     
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    Yes, I already did mention Ben Solo's name at least a couple of times in previous posts (maybe you missed it?). I know many people were surprised that Han and Lei named their son Ben, but when I first heard Han call it out, I thought to myself. "Yes. That's the name for him. It definetely fits."

    There is that passage from the newest novelization of A New Hope I had quoted before in the Han sacrifice thread that to me is quite meaningful.

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    The parallel I see is with Han's sacrifice for his son. But it also shows that Ben Kenobi did not remain just the old man who hired him on Tatooine. Just as Han came to understand the Force is real, I believe he also learned to value and appreciate that old man who changed his destiny forever and thus him and Leia naming their son Ben is something meaningful. There will not be Luke and Leia if there was no Kenobi to save and protect their mother and them and they would never have met if he didn't hire Han to take him and Luke to Alderaan. So I think that Han in retrospect understood to admire and value Obi-Wan.

    And definetely. I also think that naming Han and Leia's son Ben has a hidden potential. It is one of the little ways in which I think they are more subtly calling back to Ben Kenobi. And if Rey indeed turns out to be the descendant of Kenobi, her connection with the descendant of Anakin is going to be a very convincing reason to understand how their destinies are intertwined.

    I have been thinking in this vein for quite a while now. Basically since Dec 18th 2016...

    In any case even if Rey is not a Kenobi (and I think she is) there must be some way they will tie Ben Kenobi in the ST. It will be extremely strange if they didn't.
    I believe it will be through Rey, so we will see...
     
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    My apologies, I did read this thread's OP's a while ago and lazily posted what I did above!
    Thanks for the reminder and extra info. It certainly makes a compelling case...
     
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    Obi-Wan is dead. His only real legacy were acting as mentor for both Luke and Anakin . . . and their impacts on the saga.




    Sounds like a nice joke.


    By the way, why did Leia and Han named their son after Obi-Wan? That never made sense to me. Han barely got along with Obi-Wan and Leia has never met him. I think this was laziness on Abrams and Kasdan's part.
     
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