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SPECULATION OFFICIAL Finn Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by PrinceJ86, Sep 7, 2014.

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Do you think Finn will become a Jedi?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Force sensitive but not a jedi

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    I...I don't think I can live in a world where Luke doesn't have a son to carry on the Skywalker dynasty!
     
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    That's probably what will happen. Ah, Hollywood...
     
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    How can they resist?
     
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    Apparently John Boyega deleted his Twitter too.
     
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    I hope he keeps updating his Instagram. :(
     
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    While Boyega's twitter is deleted (along with Daisey's) his instagram is still up...



    Wonder what cartoon he is working on.., Rebels perhaps?
     
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    JJ posted a sign, according to Kevin Smith, "Loose lips sink starships." Perhaps their social media accounts were too much for the mystery box to contain?
     
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    If true, why have their other social media accounts not been deleted? (see Boyega's instagram, still posting messages)
     
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    Well, both Daisy and John have recently deleted Twitter accounts. I'm just saying.
     
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    Absolutely, as has been noted... and there definitely is some connection to them both being deleted, I agree... but the presence of other accounts tends to make me feel that it isn't Abrams (or TPTB) behind it. But the fact that John and Daisy are so close, and that their twitters disappeared together in short order, that isn't coincidence...

    So what other explanations could there be?
     
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    I really couldn't say since I am a subscriber to neither. I just find it odd that they would bother to delete their accounts so suddenly and so close together. They could easily just have ignored them and let them go silent. It seems a little strange to me, but you make a good point -- IF Bad Robot/Disney/LFL asked them to do so then why not ALL their accounts?

    slashfilm wonders as well...

    http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-7-john-boyega-daisy-ridley-leave-twitter/
     
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    As mentioned, the question has been addressed elsewhere, with the leading belief being "tweet abuse"



    although there is also a strong feeling this is part of something larger

     
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    It fits with the morality theme. If he is a storm trooper and doesn't agree with what he is ordered to do because he feels it's wrong. This totally fits with the supposed theme if you ask me.....which you did...... so there ya go
     
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    New post on MakingStarWars about Boyega, and the fighter he is supposed to crash...

    Star Wars: Episode VII’s Special Forces TIE Fighter

    It is believed that at some point, John Boyega’s character is shot down or crash lands on the planet Daisy Ridley’s character inhabits. He was an Imperial and after the crash, he no longer is. It has been stated she saves him from the wreckage and their bond begins. I doubt they’re best friends from that moment onward, but it brings them together as the story for Star Wars: Episode VIIunfolds. The minor details fluctuate. But in every version of the rumor, Boyega is shot down. He is believed to be a Stormtrooper and that was the verbiage used by many sources in England and elsewhere. Is Boyega a TIE Fighter pilot or a Stormtrooper? I think this could confirm that Boyega was a Special Forces trooper which might explain why he’s a Stormtrooper and a pilot. I’m guessing he’s like the ARC Troopers from the Clone Wars for Stormtroopers.

    I have seen two paintings from the crash and what appears to be a 3D model of the ship pre-crash. The paintings are insanely detailed and there was a lot of tender love and care put into getting these right. In fact, I think they might be my favorite of the bunch so far.

    The Special Forces TIE Fighter. Lets talk about the piece before it is all beat up. This piece is by Fausto De Martini who has worked on World of Warcraft, Robocop (2014), Transformers Age of Extinction and now Star Wars: Episode VII. This is one of the rare occasions I can read the signature of the artist.

    The new Special Forces TIE Fighter is very much the same classic TIE Fighter from the front. But it is black. It isn’t a dull black either, it kind of a shiny black on the body, closer to Darth Vader’s shine than the classic dark TIE Fighter dull black paint. The wings are exactly the same as the TIE wings we’ve seen in the past. The distinguishing feature on these new TIEs is the red markings near the glass cockpit. It is painted red. If the front of the TIE was a clock, two, three, and four o’clock are red on the right. On the left, eight, nine, and ten o’clock are red in that area. The same goes for the back of the fighter.

    On the model and the concept pieces, the right side of the TIE body has an antenna. In the near crashed concept, it appears to be a few things sticking up straight. In the front painting, it appears to be more of a panel. In the 3D model, it appears to be a panel on the top and the bottom of the body.

    Where the body meets the wings has a something that’s a little difficult to describe. It looks like giant metal tires against the wing. It’s about that size. So where the body meets the wing is almost reinforced. I don’t think this TIE’s wings fly off when it bumps into something. I wonder if they were placed there to justify the TIE crashing into the sand and its wings still staying on?

    The back of the TIE has two thrusters. Each booster is like a hexagon cut in half with a hole where the thrust comes out. They don’t stick out that from the the body. In between them is a black band that makes me think of the Sith Infiltrator, Darth Maul’s ship from Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace.

    The ship appears to have crashed while tilting to the right. The right wing is in the dirt a lot more than the left. The cockpit is touching the dirt, tilting forward. The wings are shredded at points. The wiring from the wings is bending. They better contact their intergalactic insurance company, this TIE is totaled. The thing is on fire. Debris is scattered everywhere.

    This would explain why a stormtrooper would be piloting a TIE fighter, but it does not address the issue of if this character is Lando's son, or why (after crashing) he would join Daisy...

    I have a thought...

    What if Boyega steals something from the ship he is on... something owned by Christie, and something that she would want back... he sees it, he knows this is big and its wrong, and he takes it and takes off...

    He gets shot down, is found by Daisy, and recovers... people find the crash, but not what was stolen, so they are looking. Someone finds it, someone friendly to Daisy, so they bring it to her (and Boyega) and it gets opened... and there with whatever is the lightsaber... but MvS sees what is brought back, and he knows what this is, and he has his lucid moment...

    We have all been assuming that Boyega joins Daisy, but what if its the other way around... we have all been assuming that it is the lightsaber itself that is the key, but what if the lightsaber is with something... the something is the key, and the lightsaber is the map...

    maybe Boyega was a spy, maybe he had second thoughts... maybe the new threat is there, and he doesn't think the remnants can handle it alone, whatever... maybe it's Boyega who is off on the quest to find Luke, and Daisy gets tied up with it, because she rescued Boyega, she is now marked and has to flee...

    Daisy: Aren't you a little dark for a stormtrooper?

    Boyega: What? Oh, the uniform... I'm John Boyega, Jedi in training, and I just stole X from that ship, but I crashed... and I can't find my satchel...

    Alien Dude: Oh, I found this in the desert...

    Daisy: THAT'S A LIGHTSABER

    MvS: You are a Jedi

    Boyega: Yes, and I need to get to Luke and tell him what is going on... you must come with me if you are to learn the ways of the Force

    <they leave>

    MvS: They just left... follow them and hunt them down, mistress Christie...

    Puts a bit of a totally different spin on things, don't it?

    thoughts?
     
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    I am one of those that vehemently disagrees with Boyega being Lando's son so none of this surprises me.

    Boyega may have been special forces of sort, could be why he was in Christie's unit if Christie is the fabled "chrome trooper"

    I don't think Boyega was a pilot and well I think that's why he crashes, he doesn't know how to fly.

    As to why he is in a TIE Fighter I think he is trying to escape from Driver who has connectioned his way on to the star destroyer Boyega was on in order to hunt down "Luke's Apprentice" Boyega is force sensitive and the right age but the wrong sex. So Boyega, probably already feeling disillusioned with the Empire nearly gets killed by this mysterious guy and decides he's done, he's escaping and then he's done. The light saber gives Boyega a new calling, maybe his path to redemption could start here.
     
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    How about this... we have rumors of Daisy at the cantina, and something huge explodes up in the sky... what if whatever Boyega was on is what explodes, and his ship, badly damaged, crashes in the desert... I think we have been assuming that the cantina scene happens after, but what if we have that backwards... what if the cantina scene happens first, boom in the sky, and Daisy finds Boyega on the way back to her home (the AT-AT)? He jettisoned from the ship, which is why she finds him not with the ship, and people are searching for the ship...

    Whatever attacked the ship Boyega was on scared the crap out of him, so when MvS makes the revelation, he says, "yeah, a Jedi... that's what we need" and off they go to find Luke... that or, like I said, he had infiltrated the ship to begin with...

    Of course, if this is Boyega's journey, and Daisy isn't really that savvy, that could explain why she doesn't fire when in the cantina... It would explain why Boyega wasn't in the cantina with her, though...

    Then again, she has Chewie with her... and Han may be around somewhere outside, so how would that fit in... unless it is a Wookie, not Chewie, which could explain the arm in the sling... maybe whoever saw it saw a Wookie, and think they all look the same...

    So many questions... clouded the future is...
     
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    I really like the idea that Boyega brings the lightsaber to Daisy and he's been a secret Jedi, working for the Empire.
     
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    Yeah... everyone has kinda been taking the attitude that he is a defecting stormtrooper, which never really sat well with me... but if he was a spy, and he got found out, and THAT is why Christie is chasing him... that would fit a little better in my mind...

    If that were the case, she could be part of an elite "Jedi tracker" team (which is why her unit is chrome). Committing a vast amount of resources to track a deserter just doesn't make sense... "he stole something, we know who he is now, and we are tracking him" fits better...
     
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