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SPECULATION OFFICIAL Finn Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by PrinceJ86, Sep 7, 2014.

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Do you think Finn will become a Jedi?

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  2. No

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  3. Force sensitive but not a jedi

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  1. MagnarTheGreat

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    TIE fighter set. That could be attributed to a guess based on previous rumor but as more of those bullet points seem likely the more the credibility grows.
     
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    Oh okay you mean this part right here:
    There is a set with the Falcon (nothing new) and a set with a Tie Fighter. The sets are huge.
    He saw concepts of 4 lightsabers.
    Concept of a new Stormtrooper armour (it’s white and similar to the ones from Endor).
    Scan of Yoda from Episode V (not sure what’s this about, maybe a force ghost?).
    Concepts of Rifles, Pistols and droids for the Cantina
    There was a costume of another Wookie, not Chewbacca.
    Vader’s helmet was spotted on the set. The helmet looked like it was burned. According to the guy it’ll be used in a flashback scene (we know that SW and flashbacks don’t work together but that’s what he said).
     
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    i don't know about Boyega being a Jedi spy, but stealing something of value while on duty seems like a pretty scoundrel-esque thing to do. maybe Boyega is our bad boy, like Han was in the OT. there are even some similarities, if the rumors are true about Boyega being an Imperial: didn't Han join with the Imperial Academy for a while? obviously that's no longer canon, but an interesting parallel all the same.
     
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    Yeah, in the old story, Han was in the Imperial Academy and quit when he broke Chewbacca out of slavery.
     
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    If Gwen Christie and Adam Driver are hunting Boyega across the galaxy, there has to be more to it than that he defected. Or even that he's Force sensitive.

    So it would make sense if he's taken some very important item that they want to get back.

    Maybe the lightsaber contains the clue to finding Luke: They had it, Boyega takes it, and now it's a race against time to get to Luke first.
     
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    Only thing I see here close to what we were talking about is that there is another Wookie (hint: it isn't Luke's sister)

    I think Christie is chasing him... don't think Driver is... still not reconciling him in the Rebel flight suit with the evil empire...

    As for the lightsaber, I have always had a problem with someone finding a random lightsaber in the desert and somehow knowing it's Luke's, like it has, "Property of Luke Skywalker, if found with my severed hand, please fly half way across the galaxy to return it"
     
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    Now, how many "force sensitive" characters are too much? Because it'd be great if Daisy had some tie to the force, but with Boyega using the light saber in the concept art, it seems like Daisy might play another role in the plot.

    My guess is that they are both training in the force, forming a close bond together. Daisy turns to the dark side at the end of the 7 and Boyega has to save her in 8.
     
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    Boyega and Ridley will both be force sensitive and being unknowing pawns in a grand game between light and dark is what brings them together, two power individuals with no idea the power they hold. Rumors to support Ridley falling to the dark side with an ex-Imperial of all people being the one to save her, I however think this near fall and rescue will occur in the same film.

    We have other potentials in the likes of well Gleeson is the big one, other mysteries such as Pip Anderson, Christina Chong, and Crystal Clarke. Gleeson is the favorite of many to end up as a Solo or Skywalker other then that we have no idea for the rest.
     
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    We have been told the Jedi will be a prominent role, so I would say there are likely to be a fair number of them... I hope not everyone, but...

    Ridley's father made some kind of comment to the effect that the physical training was intense for his little girl, so I would say she likely will be, but I don't think she will start the file that way. I like the idea that Boyega has already received some training, and maybe she becomes his Padawan
     
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    I've heard the opposite, where is this said?
     
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    The one time we ever had a discussion about Lando being Boyega's father, Boyega Tweeted me and said we had a lot to learn. I think Boyega shot that down himself.
     
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    He tweeted you directly? Nice.

    I actually like the idea that the Jedi may be feared at this point in time and must show the Galaxy that they are fighting for freedom and justice not fear and oppression.
     
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    Oh crap... it was one of the interviews recently, I can't remember where in the heck it was. But they asked him something, and while he couldn't talk about that he did confirm that Jedi would play an important role...

    Yeah, here it is... this was it exactly...

    I am SO glad, and it doesn't get much more direct than this... Lando having a son who is a TIE fighter pilot just never really made any sense to me (sans the whole "undercover" thing)
     
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    Yeah, the Jedi stuff in this film is a continuation of what The Clone Wars began. People aren't that enthusiastic about the Jedi. Before they're killed off, there are mass protests wanting them out of positions of power, a stance Tarkin also took.
     
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    I would also think that Luke would want to take a strong look at the Jedi code of ethics. The non-attachment doctrine is wonderful, if you are a Buddhist, which part of the Jedi code was lifted from. The problem with that is, not everyone is intended to be a Buddhist monk... in the SW universe, if you are a force-wielder, you pretty much have to adopt the whole code or none at all.. There is no room for someone who accepts the philosophy (or is born a force-wielder) and does not want to become cloistered.

    The role of the Jedi would also need to be examined... The Jedi began supporting the senate because it was a noble effort. Then the senate began supporting the Jedi council, and the Jedi and senate became intertwined. There was never a question of what is in the best interest of the Republic and what was in the best interest of the Jedi order... the blind faith, the "we must protect the senate and the process", is what allowed Palpatine to rise to power right in front of them, and they had to protect him. The corruption was complete when they realized they needed to kill Palpatine, and there was no room to do so within their laws. It was the right things to do, but legally they needed to arrest him.

    As has been said, it will come down to the nature of good and evil, and what those really mean.
     
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    Alright so it appears I have to go with the backup assumption I had in case Jedi were confirmed. There won't be a lot and as has been said they have to deal with a lot of bad publicity.

    Guess I will post on the Jedi thread now about this stuff
     
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    I think this changes things.

    [​IMG]

    "Knight Trooper"?

    Wasn't there a rumor that the Empire was trying to create Sith troopers (or already had them) and that was the real "super weapon"? And something to do with using Anakin's DNA?

    What if the "Grave Robber" wants to use Vader's remains to make some sort of serum which gives stormtroopers special, Sith-like abilities? Maybe Boyega has been trained to become one of these "Knight Troopers", but escaped before they could fully indoctrinate him.

    It would explain why his CO, Gwen Christie, carries a "Wampa Lightsaber". She would be head of this special forces division of stormtroopers who will be treated with the "Sith serum". It would explain why Boyega's character seems to already be familiar with lightsabers early on in the movie.

    [​IMG]

    It would even explain why John and Daisy have the Bespin saber in the first place: John defected with it as evidence that the Empire is collecting Sith/Jedi artifacts. They've got Luke's hand, they've got his DNA. They've got Vader's remains, they've got his DNA.

    With that, there's no telling what they could do.
     
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    I'm kind of in the "Boyega is a relative of Zare Leonis" camp.

    I still think Boyega is just playing a ST who needed to escape/defect. Because he's NOT a pilot is why he would crash a Tie fighter. Think about it. IF he was a special forces ST and had all this special training, including piloting, wouldn't he be able to land his Tie correctly? And don't tell me about being chased -- They would shoot his ass down and salvage the [item] from the smoldering wreckage.

    [​IMG]
     
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    That first concept (on left) is clearly a female. So I do think Gwendolyn Christie's character is a Stormtrooper leader - The Clone Wars proved that an audience can identify with a stormtrooper leader type (Rex/Cody/etc). I wonder if she is the one with the wampa blade though. I'm leaning more toward the Grave Robber character weilding it. It definitely has a red lightsaber vibe to it.
     
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